Hi there, the CCC congress was fun for me, I hope for the others, too. Not only that there were some Hurd people, but also two L4 hackers from Karlsruhe. Neal had his really nice talk on the Hurd and after that the L4 people talked spontaneouslly a bit about L4.
Jeroen and me tried to summarize the Hurd/L4 related points a bit. o Horst Wenske, an active L4 hacker who seems to be interested in the Hurd, wants to tell some other L4 people about the Hurd and tries to promote it a bit there. He also suggested to make a list of Hurd/L4 related subjects he could propose for theses at his university. See the "Student projects" at http://www.research.ibm.com/sawmill/ as an example of what he means. Right now they are still doing research on SawMill, which is dead, the Hurd is not. That would be a big advantage for the Hurd, since we are usually volunteers, they would work fulltime on such projects. Since SawMill is dead, the Hurd would be a better system for them to try out their nice microkernel. o He wants to convince the IDL4 hacker to release it. o We need to know how the new L4 API will look like, perhaps it would make things easier for the port. The L4 API is still evolving and won't stop doing so in the near future. But all L4 kernels are at least backwards compatible. o He wants to convince the SawMill people to open the source (SawMill is a multi-server OS running on top of L4). Perhaps that could be helpful since that OS is quite similar to the Hurd, he said. o ChacmOS is a very simple free OS built on top of L4, we could have a look at that, too. You can find it at http://www.l4ka.org/projects/ChacmOS. moritz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://duesseldorf.ccc.de/~moritz/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98 4199 _______________________________________________ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd