On 2025-05-01 08:15, Eric Blake wrote:
If POSIX were to try to standardize \` and \' instead of \A and \z, it
would have the benefit of existing practice (glibc), but the drawback
of less familiarity (lots more languages would have to adapt, whereas
now \A is fairly common and \` is rare).

I don't know, propagating confusion of \z vs \Z sounds backwards to me.

Python is the biggest dog in the zoo right now, and regardless of whether the proposed glibc patch is applied, Python would have to change for it to be compatible with glibc. So why not stick with something that is both intuitive and has seen widespread use?

\A...\Z (Python) is intuitive but is not upward compatible with Perl so OK, that's out. Although \`...\' (glibc) and \A...\z (Perl) are both upward compatible the other alternatives, \A...\z is confusing whereas \`...\' is intuitive. Let's stick with the intuitive approach, in both glibc and POSIX.


If POSIX were to try to standardize \` and \' instead of \A and \z, it
would have the benefit of existing practice (glibc)

Not just glibc. A quick search shows that FreeBSD[1] and Boost[2][3] both support \`...\' in POSIX-style BREs and EREs, as an extension. Surely there are other implementations.

Let's standardize what already works instead of adding even more confusion.

[1]: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/ca53e5aedfebcc1b4091b68e01b2d5cae923f85e [2]: https://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_88_0/libs/regex/doc/html/boost_regex/syntax/basic_syntax.html [3]: https://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_88_0/libs/regex/doc/html/boost_regex/syntax/basic_extended.html

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