On 01/24/11 10:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I thought something like "autoreconf -I m4" > was needed to build successfully after synchronizing with the > repository, if my last synchronization was before the import from > gnulib. If that's not true, are you saying that just "./configure" > should be enough?
Yes, it should be enough, unless the commit was busted (or unless I'm missing something, which is quite plausible since I don't know bzr well). Here I'm assuming that someone else (who had up-to-date autotools) did a 'make sync-from-gnulib' and then committed the result. When you resynchronize from the repository, you should get not only the hand-maintained source files (such as 'configure.in'); you should also get the automatically-generated files (such as 'configure'), and their time stamps should be no earlier than those of the source files. If you are using HP-UX 'make' you might have trouble, since it violates POSIX and considers a destination to be out-of-date if its time stamp is the same as the source. But the workaround is simple: use GNU 'make' if you're on HP-UX, which you should be doing anyway for other reasons if you're a maintainer. > Any other issues that make the curve steep? Well, you asked. :-) Sure, another thing that makes it hard for newbies is that there's no web site to browse the sources and their histories. There is <http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git>, but it's the history filtered through git, which is not the same thing. When I visit the latest version of the log for the master, for example, I'm usually missing the last few versions, and I often see two or more copies of a particular change, due to the way that bzr is mirrored into git. It's pretty confusing. Let me give you another example of something I did wrong. I did my first checkin using 'git'. (I didn't know bzr was the only way to install changes.) After a few hours the checkin vanished. There was no explanation or diagnostic. OK, OK, so I did something stupid, but I was a *newbie*, and it's a natural newbie mistake: the system should do a better job of telling me what's going on.
