On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 03:56:21PM +0000, Kerin Millar wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:05:39 -0500
> Marshall Whittaker <marshallwhitta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Fair. I'm not saying anyone has to change it, but I will call out what I
> > think is a design flaw. But this is going to turn into some philosophical
> > discussion as to whether it should have been done this way from the start.
> > That I don't know, and hold no responsibility for, as I'm not a bash dev,
> > I'm an exploit dev. Maybe an asshole too.
>
> You appear to be missing the implication; it has nothing in particular to do
> with bash. Consider the following Perl program. At no point is a shell
> involved.
>
> @args = glob('*');
> system('rm', '-f', @args); # bad
I had to double-check you via 'strace -f -e execve ...', but you are
right, for this particular example. But according to 'perldoc -f
system', there ARE instances where perl's system() involves a shell:
Note that argument processing varies depending on the
number of arguments. If there is more than one argument in LIST,
or if LIST is an array with more than one value, starts the
program given by the first element of the list with arguments
given by the rest of the list. If there is only one scalar
argument, the argument is checked for shell metacharacters, and
if there are any, the entire argument is passed to the system's
command shell for parsing (this is "/bin/sh -c" on Unix
although /bin/sh is not always bash. But that brings up a bug in perl(1):
$ strace -f -e execve perl -e 'system("echo \$HOME")'
execve("/usr/bin/perl", ["perl", "-e", "system(\"echo \\$HOME\")"],
0x7ffc3e642e58 /* 72 vars */) = 0
strace: Process 1248831 attached
[pid 1248831] execve("/bin/sh", ["sh", "-c", "echo $HOME"], 0x55d3099d69d0 /*
72 vars */) = 0
/home/eblake
[pid 1248831] +++ exited with 0 +++
--- SIGCHLD {si_signo=SIGCHLD, si_code=CLD_EXITED, si_pid=1248831,
si_uid=14986, si_status=0, si_utime=0, si_stime=0} ---
+++ exited with 0 +++
According to POSIX, perl should REALLY be passing a "--" argument
between "-c" and the scalar string given by the user; see
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1440
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