Ah, I see the confusion. The issue you pointed out, "@Q breaks set -o nounset" refers to quote parameter expansion, as does the line in CHANGES-5.1, 1.q, which makes sense to call this a bug that was allowed in bash 4.4 and 5.0.
I should have specified, the focus of this issue is the "@a" expansion. It makes sense that @Q/E/P/A expansion should not work on unset variables with nounset enabled. However, @a is uniquely different, in that it does not have to do with the value of the variable, but rather the variable type. My "set -eu" compatible library uses the @a expansion (for bash 4.4 and newer) because it had previously worked on unset values with set -u enabled, which was a very useful feature. Here are 3 specific details I would like to address: 1. @a expansion should work on unset variables with "set -u" in bash 5.1. It seems like the correct thing to do. Only @a expansion. This has been a very useful feature in bash 4.4 and 5.0. Should fail: (set -eu; declare -a x; echo "${x@Q}") Should not fail: (set -eu; declare -a x; echo "${x@a}") 2. With "set -u", the following works in bash 4.4 or newer (and makes sense that it works): (set -eu; x=(); echo "${x[@]}") Here x is not unset, it is set to an empty array. This expansion make sense with nounset turned on because x is not unset, it is set to () However, this fails: (set -eu; x=(); echo "${x@a}") This is an inconsistent behavior, and it seems to me the ${x@a} should definitely work here, with nounset turns on 3. The same as #2, but for associative arrays Works: (set -eu; declare -A x=(); echo "${x[@]}") Does not work, but should: (set -eu; declare -A x=(); echo "${x@a}") Thanks On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chet Ramey <chet.ra...@case.edu> wrote: > On 8/10/20 5:52 PM, Andrew Neff wrote: > > > Bash Version: 5.1 > > Patch Level: 0 > > Release Status: alpha > > > > Description: > > I do not know if this is related to bash 5.1 erroneously being > > "a little aggressive about skipping over empty strings" mentioned > > in "Declaring arrays with empty string in one line is bugged", but using > > parameter transformation on an empty array, throws an error if "set -u" > is > > turned on. This was not how bash 4.4 and 5.0 worked. This bug makes it > > impossible to check if an empty variable is an array using parameter > > transformation while "set -u" is turned on > > This was a bug in bash-5.0 (and 4.4) and was fixed in early March 2019 as > the result of > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2019-03/msg00010.html > > It's in CHANGES. > > There are some other changes in how bash displays attributes of unset > variables when `nounset' is not enabled, but unset variables used in word > expansions should trigger an error -- with the usual @/* exceptions -- when > set -u is enabled. > > -- > ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer > ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates > Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU c...@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/ >