Okay:
I understand nothing from this conversation. LOL However I'd love to help
with the Spanish software. However I'm not as talented as the person who
rote this msg. *smile.*
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths."
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From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List Of Requirements For Next Mainstream Release
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> Hi Jonathan,
>
> On 29 Jul 2004 at 10:44, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]>
spoke, thus:
>
> > Hi Sabahattin, great message. Just to let you know however that the
X-Base
> > source has been up on our web site for almost three months now.
>
> Noted. Cheers! I overlooked that on the first pass - apologies. I'm
> pleased to see you've done all that is necessary for developer input on
> this component and acknowledged it as such.
>
> [...]
> > 1. SDK. As you'll be aware if you sat in on any of my Sight Village
> > presentations, this is a very high priority. I think we're going about
> > things in the correct, very methodical way. First, we have to get the
> > hardware and software infrastructure right, IE running a good updated
> > version of the OS and addressing some connectivity issues. However, we
are
> > getting close to the time when we start looking at the structure of the
SDK
> > in earnest. I hope we can engage the blind development community in an
> > active dialogue that allows us to understand fully what developers like
> > yourself need in order to take a BrailleNote and run with it. It's in
our
> > interests for us to create the environment you need to make the
Braillenote
> > even more vibrant and versatile. When the time comes, I hope you will be
a
> > part of that dialogue as I'm sure you have plenty to contribute. I can
tell
> > you now though that there are no plans to make KeySoft open source.
>
> I regret that I did not make your presentations, I unfortunately lacked
> the time. I look forward to the opportunity of engaging in that
> developmental dialog. I didn't mention it initially, but I appreciate
> your need to stabilise the platform before you begin committing to your
> SDK. Be assured, I am not suggesting that you have intentions to keep
> closed any part of the system that is of potential use to us as a
> BrailleNote software developer. I hold trust in the company that it would
> truely exercise the tallents of its developers and live up to that whim by
> doing all that is necessary to facilitate that. If you can do this, then
> I have no objections to your not open sourcing your own code - you are a
> company, after all, and we open source developers have got to appreciate
> that. However, I am myself an open source advocate; please try to ensure
> by all reasonable means that anything we develop for the BrailleNote may
> be open sourced under a Free license (Free as defined by the Free Software
> Foundation). Open source has too many philosophical as well as practical
> uses and benefits to make developing in absence of it, or with the
> possibility of unwanted commercial exploitation or legally viable
> copyright deprivation, a severe detraction from my wish to do so. In
> essence, I want my work to be open source, and I want those who care to to
> benefit from and use it and do all the other wonderful things you can do
> with open source without fear of having their work subsumed, nicked, or
> commercially manipulated without credit to the author and without doing as
> the author asked.
>
> > 2. You make a good point about the e-mail, and in the version 6 series
it's
> > been completely rewritten. There's no IMAP support in this initial
release
> > but I agree it is an addition we need to look hard at.
>
> Email is something I'm particularly interested in, as I'm sure you
> probably couldn't help noticing by now. I look forward to getting a look
> at the new features. Could you give me a rundown of what changes I'll
> notice?
>
> [...]
> > 4. To some extent, version 6.x will be much more to your liking. For
> > example, you do get asked in the substantially reworked browser whether
you
> > wish to store cookies or not. There is always a fine line between
> > satisfying users like yourself who want to hack, and ensuring that the
> > curious kid who pokes around randomly can't do irreparable damage. Our
user
> > base is very broad with a substantial amount of it in the education
sector,
> > so we're always striving to get the balance right.
>
> Fair enough, I am reading you. I am a fan of doing things my way, so to
> some extent having fewer options can be a blessing since it gives you less
> to tamper with. On the other hand, within reason, I need to change
> whatever is preventing me from getting the work done, whether that's
> cookies or anything else.
>
> > 5. I think the point you make here is one of the reasons why I view the
> > SDK as such a high priority. I am looking forward to a climate and
> > culture of innovation from the BrailleNote development community that
> > will allow us at PDI not only to add additional features to the KeySoft
> > core, but also to go back and take the time to work further on things
> > we've already done. Remember too that our R&D blindness team has tripled
> > in size, and although people accused me of spin when I first announced
> > this, you can see that what we're coming out with now reflects the fact
> > that we have a group of amazingly talented engineers producing ground
> > breaking stuff.
>
> I don't have an opinion on whether or not you were putting out spin.
> However, until proven to be a source of the adaption of the BrailleNote to
> the extent that we want it adapted, including the fixing of minor bugs as
> described originally in software you are telling me will be closed source
> and which forms the core KeySoft package you are providing, I remain
> concerned that changes we make will be restricted strictly to new software
> developed, either by ourselves or by others and open sourced, using the
> SDK. While this is not a problem in itself, these minor fixes that are
> the cause of much discussion on the list will always remain a problem if
> PulseData doesn't somehow commit to making the release cycle a bit more
> congenial, as it will not be possible for us to do that - not even to
> commit the patch or patches necessary to fix whatever the problem is to
> you for inspection.
>
> [...]
> > 7. Pretty much done I think, in the version 6 release.
>
> So, I can go out and buy a bluetooth PCMCIA card and put it into the
> BrailleNote, providing you first recommend it?
>
> > 8. I agree we can do more to make the File Manager useful, however don't
> > forget that you can in fact copy, rename, and move files using hotkeys
from
> > anywhere you have access to a file list.
>
> Yes, I am aware of these abilities. I imagined a typical KeySoft-
> fashioned file manager, a bit like the MP3 player - you open it and begin
> browsing, hitting keys to do stuff. If you forgot how to do stuff, you'd
> hit help or another key to get a menu of stuff you could do. Also, with
> regards to file extension and file unhiding, this is a feature I
> personally would like to see.
>
> > Thanks again for the feedback.
>
> Thank you for your attention! I look forward to your response.
>
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
> - --
> Thought for the day:
> Communist (n): one who has given up all hope
> of becoming a Capitalist.
>
>
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu
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> Mobile: +44 7986 053399
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