I think both pages can be helpful to different people. The so-called SimpleGUi is far from self-evident; there are "hidden" controls such as the "graphics available" static text which is really a "show graphics" button, and the project icons which show a menu when clicked.
So I think it is good to have the <http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_view> page available. On the Mac, there is no way to eliminate the menus entirely, so the mac Simple View does have a help menu with three options like the Advanced view's help menu: "BOINC Help" takes you to the wiki/BOINC_Help page, "BOINC Manager" takes you to the wiki/Simple_view page, and "BOINC Website" takes you to <http://boinc.berkeley.edu/>. Unfortunately, the design of the SimpleGUI dictated that there be no menus on Windows (a decision I feel was misguided.) So I would suggest that the the Help button take you to the wiki/BOINC_Help page, but that page should have self-help links to <http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_view> and <http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view>. That way you get the best of both worlds. As Jord points out, the wiki/BOINC_Help page is geared to the Advanced View, so perhaps <http://boinc.berkeley.edu/manager_links.php??target=simple&version=6.11.4&controlid=6601> needs to go to a separate page similar to the wiki/BOINC_Help page but designed specifically for Simple View. This page wouls also have a link to the existing wiki/Simple_view for those who just want a guide the controls and displays in the simple view. These changes can all be made at the BOINC and GridRepublic web sites; no change to the client is needed. Cheers, --Charlie At 4:00 PM -0700 7/30/10, David Anderson wrote: >The simple view's help link is the "?" button >(which maybe should be changed to "help"). > >Until now, this has been linked to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Simple_view, >which is unlikely to be of help to anyone. >I changed it to point to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help, >which is my attempt at the "really simple page" you request. >Feel free to edit this (as long as you keep it really simple!). > >The previous contents of that page - including outdated stuff and >mumbo-jumbo about Registry editing and MSI cleanup utilities - >has been moved here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_FAQ > >-- David > >On 29-Jul-2010 3:35 PM, Maureen Vilar wrote: >>I like Jorden's suggestion to 'keep it simple'. >>There was recently a lady on the Facebook website for Progress thru >>Processors who said: 'I could not make this application work and would >>like to get out of it completely.' When asked to explain what the >>problem had been she said she had no idea what to do and couldn't find a >>Help link. >>There are Help links in the Advanced view. They send one to: >>http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help >>http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Advanced_view >>http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ >>They're all fine and extremely useful but the first two links are >>probably too complex and advanced for people like the Facebook lady. The >>third probably wouldn't help her. There's no link to a really simple >>page explaining that the way to get help from a person is to post on a >>project forum or the PtP forum or the boinc_dev forum or the Facebook >>PtP Discussion section. With information about how to find these forums. >>In the Simple view of 6.10.58 there's no Help link at all. Clicking on >>the square logos for one's projects gives a link to each project's >>website, but only in a few cases is there a link directly to a >>project's forum. The same can be said about the project buttons in the >>Commands panel of the Advanced view. >>I think the Simple view should carry a link to a really easy Boinc wiki >>help page which could also be added to the Advanced view help links. >>(The Boinc FAQs would serve this purpose admirably but I imagine that >>such a link is a no-no because it isn't official Boinc documentation.) >>It might also help if, just as more than one Command button is provided >>by default for the big projects that adopted Boinc early, like Einstein, >>Seti and CPDN, a forum link button could be also provided by default for >>every project. -- Charlie Fenton [email protected] BOINC / s...@home Macintosh & Windows Programmer Space Sciences Laboratory UC Berkeley _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
