Hi Sophie, all,
sophi wrote on 27/06/2022 22:09:
I'm opening a new thread because I would like to clarify a bit my
position on why this is necessary for TDF to have an online version and
why I think it's possible if we all take a balanced position and listen
to each others.
I believe delivering LibreOffice on centralized online services in
resource-constrained environments and on Android powered tablets and
phones is explicitly part of our mission.
It is a fair choice to believe that. I think not the only valid one.
So for me the topic is not do we want to compete each other, but do we
want to complete each other. And if we brainstorm on that common goal,
We see a clear winn-winn currently with Collabora Online.. Not only it
is promoting LibreOffice (since clearly based on LibreOffice
Technology), of course open source code to the best standards (anyone
can join, study, build, contribute, share, fork), with non limited free
versions available, and with an open community with many we know.. but
it is also allowing the ecosystem to have it's role, as we thought out
it would be wonderful when setting up the foundation, to contribute
significant to TDF and LibreOffice as a result of the companies
investments and risk taking and capabilities to deal with the commercial
markets.
I'm sure we will find ways to be beneficial for both the ecosystem and
the foundation and that should even broaden the ecosystem.
Yes. Finding balance between ecosystem members and TDF is not easy. In
the Autumn of 2020 we learned the hard way that it can be easily broken.
So indeed we have to be respectful and considerate.
I cannot believe that there is a clear and conscientious will in TDF to
compete with it's own ecosystem. And I agree with you that, also when
there is an online under TDF infrastructure (which no one can nor want
to forbid, since we have a meritocratic community. And for which we know
what is reasonable and asked for to have a sensible fair project) we
must have ways to simply not compete with the ecosystem.
And for growing the ecosystem: both mentoring and projects to find new
markets/parties that understand the opportunities and want to do some
investment are needed. Let's (again) try to focus on work like that,
would be my suggestion.
TDF has to take care of those left over users anyway.
Not sure what you mean with that.
Some may reply that it doesn't fulfill the technical part, but to my
eyes, if we get room for everyone, community will show up to help
filling the gap.
It is encouraging to see, apart from some problems as pointed out by
others, enthusiasm. But hmmm..., with all history, discussions and
careful working on proposals, I think it is not unfair if I notify that
it is somehow late. Then of course: better late then not at all ;)
Cheers,
Cor
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