On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Florian Effenberger > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Robert, > > Hi Florian > > (Copying in Charles since he asked a similar question off list) > >> I'm still reading a few messages and trying to reply to them, but wanted to >> join in here: > > Just like the rest of us :-) > > Noisy and open - everyone with an opinion is welcome :-) > >> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-04 09.14: >>> >>> The TDF is in no position to accept a major donation of either >>> copyright or code today. Apache is. >> >> Why? > > AIUI [1] the TDF is not a legal entity today and is still in the > process of building it's legal, organisational and process > infrastructure.
So it was urgent as in a matter of weeks ? > I accept it has strong legal backing but today no > (related) US non-profit corporation exists which could accept the > donation. How is 'US' relevant here ? > > The Apache Software Foundation provides a suitable legal no-profit > organisation and in place today a suitable process to accept large > donations of code from major organisations safely through the > Incubator. It has considerable experience of opening close source > projects and in working with rich downstream ecologies. Opening close source ? how is it relevant here ? The proposal is to relicense an open-source project... unless I missed something the proposal concern OOo.org not Symphony right ? > >> Can you elaborate? > > IMHO LibreOffice community finds itself in a similar position to the > Apache group in the mid-90s. Great community. Fantastic momentum. Cool > product. > > But establishing code provenance and the Apache Software Foundation > (ASF) took a(n unexpectedly) large amount of time and energy. > Establishing suitable licenses and agreements took time and energy > over several iterations. Establishing a sound Incubation process took > time and energy over many iterations. It took time for us to learn and > evolve secure processes which don't completely suck. That is all good, but irrelevant. we already have a license and we would not need to incubate anything: the code base you are trying to digest is our daily chore... It has already graduated as a top level project even better as THE top level project. > > The TDF is at the start of a journey that the ASF started a decade ago > and is yet to reach the end. As far as OOo.org is concerned, it is the other way around. > The TDF may wish to consider whether an > alternative path might achieve their aims faster... Well, take a look: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ I'm pretty sure that we've got nice head start... Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
