Hi Team,

Thanks all for the LGTMs!
To clarify, how many LGTMs are typically required before we can enable this
feature to stable?

Best,
Jiaming

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 6:31 AM Mike Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> LGTM3
> On 5/31/24 4:08 AM, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote:
>
> LGTM2
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 5:52 AM 'Jiaming Cheng' via blink-dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Domenic :]
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:28 PM Domenic Denicola <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> LGTM1.
>>>
>>> This feature and its spec fits well with the existing MediaMetadata. It
>>> has received a positive position from Mozilla. The TAG review solicited a
>>> good discussion of considered alternatives.
>>>
>>> I agree with Alex that this would have gone better with a proper
>>> explainer, including considered alternatives and example code. But the
>>> feature is simple enough, and thankfully we got a chance to spell out the
>>> reasoning about alternatives in the TAG review, so I think we can proceed.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 1:53:09 AM UTC+9 Alex Russell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for the slow reply here.
>>>>
>>>> Glad to see this works for Audio too. This might have been a bit more
>>>> obvious of there were an explainer in the usual format. I expect the TAG
>>>> will ask for one of those too. Please pay particular attention to
>>>> considered alternatives and example code, both for the proposed design and
>>>> for discarded alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> https://w3ctag.org/explainers/
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:14:18 PM UTC-7 Jiaming Cheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Domenic and Mike for the reply!
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. It looks like we have an LGTM on the Mozilla review
>>>>> <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1019>. Could
>>>>> we please add some reviewers for the TAG review as well? If not, I'm happy
>>>>> to ping this thread again in two weeks :]
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jiaming
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:16 PM Domenic Denicola <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jiaming,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per our process
>>>>>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#new-feature-prepare-to-ship>,
>>>>>> we give the TAG and other vendors at least one month to comment on 
>>>>>> changes.
>>>>>> (This is why it is recommended to start these reviewers earlier, before
>>>>>> sending the Intent to Ship.) So it might be a bit more time before we can
>>>>>> consider this feature for shipping. Of course, if you get responses and
>>>>>> engagement before that point, we can proceed earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Domenic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 11:06:55 AM UTC+9 Jiaming Cheng wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi team,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those reviews have been posted for 10 days, there's no opposing
>>>>>>> comments on any of them so far. Could you please take another look at 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> intent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jiaming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:25 PM Jiaming Cheng <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Alex, Chris and Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your valuable feedback!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've addressed your comments and taken the following updates:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Alex, the ChapterInformation *does* apply to audio as well as
>>>>>>>> video, since MediaSession is for both audio and video. I've updated the
>>>>>>>> Chrome status to reflect this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally, I've taken the following actions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Added WPT test:
>>>>>>>>    https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5516503
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Filed TAG review:
>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/952
>>>>>>>>    - Filed WebKit review:
>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/344
>>>>>>>>    - Filed Gecko review:
>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1019
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will keep you updated on the progress of these reviews and notify
>>>>>>>> you once they are approved. Let me know if you have any questions :]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Jiaming
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 8:57 AM Alex Russell <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On reviewing this, I'm concerned that this isn't also addressing
>>>>>>>>> the same needs for Audio. This would have come up in a TAG review, and
>>>>>>>>> probably would have been fleshed out in an Explainer. Would like to 
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> those before this progresses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 3:35:45 PM UTC-7
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was curious about WPT coverage for this and found
>>>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/mediasession/mediametadata.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe that could be updated to check for the basics of the new
>>>>>>>>>> attribute?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* 'Jiaming Cheng' via blink-dev <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2024 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Alex Newcomer <[email protected]>; Megan Fu <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Tommy Steimel <[email protected]>; Andrew
>>>>>>>>>> Xu <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Support Video Chapter in
>>>>>>>>>> MediaMetadata
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/308
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/mediasession/#the-chapterinformation-interface
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The corresponding implementation on the blink layer based on the
>>>>>>>>>> w3c api change, which is to add the `ChapterInformation` attribute 
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> existing `MediaMetadata` See the propose:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/issues/273
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Blink>Media>Session
>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMedia%3ESession>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not applicable
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It’s low risk as it's a small addition to an existing API that
>>>>>>>>>> both Gecko and WebKit approve of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs,
>>>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based
>>>>>>>>>> applications?*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
>>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> MediaSessionChapterInformation
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Finch feature name
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Non-finch justification
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> False
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sample links
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://googlechrome.github.io/samples/media-session/video.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 126
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web
>>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to 
>>>>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) whose
>>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to 
>>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6682585059295232?gate=5003115407605760
>>>>>>>>>>
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