LGTM1

/Daniel

On 2024-02-09 20:24, 'Yotam Hacohen' via blink-dev wrote:


On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 6:46:00 PM UTC-8 Domenic Denicola wrote:

    On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yotam Hacohen <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        Hey Dominic and thanks for the input!

        On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 7:34:53 PM UTC-8 Domenic
        Denicola wrote:

            It's always exciting to move such an old feature from
            nonstandard to standardized!

            On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:18 AM 'Yotam Hacohen' via
            blink-dev <[email protected]> wrote:

                Contact [email protected]

                ExplainerNone


            FWIW, I think the contents of
            https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/9699 and
            https://drafts.csswg.org/css-viewport/#zoom-property are
            probably a good enough explainer. It might be a good idea
            to update ChromeStatus to link to them.

        Added those. Thanks!



                Specificationhttps://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/9699

                Design
                
docshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1AcnDShjT-kEuRaMchZPm5uaIgNZ4OiYtM4JI9qiV8Po/edit

                Summary

                Aligns the existing implementation of the previously
                non-standard CSS zoom property to align with the new
                standard. This changes various JS APIs to align with
                the spec (see design doc), change zoom to apply to
                iframes, and change it to apply to all inherit all
                length properties (currently it only changes inherited
                font-size)


                Blink componentBlink>Paint
                
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPaint>

                TAG reviewNone

                TAG review statusPending


            Probably this fits under the first exception here
            
<https://www.chromium.org/blink/guidelines/api-owners/process-exceptions/>.



                Risks

                Interoperability and Compatibility

                There is web compatibility risk for these changes.
                However, previous research indicates broken content
                due to unexpected changes of the JS APIs is very
                unlikely, since: * The changes to the JS API simply
                change the coordinate space of the responses, not the
                syntax or what APIs are available. * Most pages found
                during the research didn't appear to use CSS zoom at
                all and the ones that did only relied on the visual
                effect, not JS APIs. It's possible some pages will be
                broken by the changes to inherited properties other
                than font-size, or applying zoom to sub-frames, but
                based on previous research, those are very likely to
                be minor visual changes that don't break fundamental
                user interaction with the site. None of the sites
                reviewed contained iframes underneath a zoomed
                ancestor. We will use direct outreach to avoid any
                broken features in Office 365 or the Gmail native
                mobile app


            Can you give more quantitative details on this previous
            research? E.g. when you say "most pages", is that 3/5
            pages? 99/100?

          Sampling pages from the doc, I couldn't find even one
        example of a page that uses zoom in a way that will change
        it's behavior (i.e. - calling GetBoundingClientRect or
        GetBoundingRects on an element with CSS zoom). I also compared
        those sites visually side by side on a stable version of
        chrome and a local version with the planned changes in effect,
        and couldn't see any change.


    This sounds like a good sign, but I'd still appreciate some
    numbers. So it's zero out of how many?

I checked the first 15 websites in the list on this doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cmbXpjAcXAht2ufi7bNKy-rbVNveqaf0UzeYg_DIMNA/edit#heading=h.6sz4u73bikbd



            Regarding the direct outreach targets you mentioned, are
            they already fixed, or do they need more time to update?

        We have reached out to the relevant people.


    So, you have contacted them, but they still need more time to
    update? Do you have an estimate for when they will be updated?

We already got a response from the gmail team, and everything is ok there, we even have a jsfiddle example <https://jsfiddle.net/v167sj9p/> that shows that the visual aspect doesn't change for them. Still waiting for a response from the Office 365, if we don't get a response in the next week we will reach out again for a better defined timeline.



            What is your rollout plan for this change---straight to
            100% with a killswitch, or a gradual rollout, or...?

        Our plan is to go straight to 100% with a killswitch.




                /Gecko/: No signal Filed a standard position request:
                https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/977

                /WebKit/: No signal Filed a standard position request:
                https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/311

                /Web developers/: Positive
                
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cmbXpjAcXAht2ufi7bNKy-rbVNveqaf0UzeYg_DIMNA/edit#heading=h.6sz4u73bikbd)
                Research collected as part of the previous attempt to
                remove CSS zoom demonstrated several use cases.

                /Other signals/:

                WebView application risks

                See Interoperability and Compatibility above



                Debuggability

                None


                Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
                platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and
                Android WebView)?No

                Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
                
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?Yes


                All JS APIs affected by zoom are tested with the
                following wpt tests:
                
https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/offsetTop-offsetLeft-with-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&q=cssom-view%2FoffsetTop-offsetLeft-with-zoom.html
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/offsetTop-offsetLeft-with-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&q=cssom-view%2FoffsetTop-offsetLeft-with-zoom.html>
                
https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/client-props-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/client-props-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned>
                
https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/getBoundingClientRect-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/getBoundingClientRect-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned>
                
https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/getClientRects-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/getClientRects-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned>
                
https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/scroll-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/scroll-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned>
                
https://wpt.fyi/results/intersection-observer/zoom-scaled-target.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/intersection-observer/zoom-scaled-target.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>


            Are the non-JS aspects of the API also tested?

        Yes, the tests also test the cpp code that is affected.


    My question was about the visual aspects. Are there any, for
    example, reftests, which show that zoom has a visual effect?

Yes, there are reftests for zoom in the wpt folder. The behavior of many aspects of the zoom are not changed (Especially the visual effect of CSS zoom on most elements, excluding iframes) and those tests stay the same. We will also add reftests for iframes with CSS zoom withe the patch adding those changes to iframes.


                Flag name on chrome://flagsStandardizedBrowserZoom

                Finch feature nameStandardizedBrowserZoom

                Requires code in //chrome?False

                Sample
                linkshttps://jsbin.com/wasafateko/edit?html,css,js,output

                Estimated milestones

                No milestones specified


                Link to entry on the Chrome Platform
                Statushttps://chromestatus.com/feature/5198254868529152

                This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform
                Status <https://chromestatus.com/>.

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