On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:12 AM Byungwoo Lee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks! I replied again. :)
>
> 2023년 1월 6일 금요일 오후 7시 50분 43초 UTC+9에 [email protected]님이 작성:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:59 PM Byungwoo Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Added missing links.
>>>
>>> 2023년 1월 6일 금요일 오전 12시 52분 25초 UTC+9에 Byungwoo Lee님이 작성:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for asking!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Is this change covered by a base feature flag?
>>>>
>>>> This is behind 'CSSAtSupportsAlwaysNonForgivingParsing' flag, and the
>>>> flag doesn't have 'base_feature' field yet. I'll add the field to the
>>>> feature before enable it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Can you clarify if the ':has()' behavior will change here or not?
>>>> This last sentence seems to contradict the original message of the intent.
>>>>
>>>> > Can you confirm that both these cases won't break?
>>>>
>>>> There's a bit of twisted history here, so it would be better to answer
>>>> these two questions at once. (Sorry for the long answer!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. What can this feature change?
>>>>
>>>> After this feature enabled, `@supports selector()` can return different
>>>> result when it checks forgiving-parsing pseudo class.
>>>>
>>>> For example, `@supports selector(:where(:foo, a))` returns true now
>>>> (forgiving parsing drops invalid `:foo` inside `:where()`, so the
>>>> `:where(:foo, a)` becomes a valid selector `:where(a)` after forgiving
>>>> parsing), but it will return false after this feature enabled
>>>> (`:where(:foo, a)` will be invalid inside `@supports selector()`).
>>>>
>>>
>> OK, so for where we're risking seeing more fallbacks than before, but
>> according to your manual inspection, that seems fine?
>>
>
> Yes, I think so.
> Based on the usage metrics, only about 0.5 % of page loads could be
> affected by this feature. Considering the manual investigation on the top
> pages (only 1 of of 10 is for `:where()`, and the rest are for `:has()`. no
> urls for `:is()`), the ratio of the `:where()` is likely to be much less
> than 0.5 %.
>

In the manual inspection, how many function calls had a mix of valid and
invalid selectors? (that would be impacted by this change)


>
> But I cannot say that this feature will not affect at all, or that will be
> the exact numbers that this feature actually affects after 110(unforgiving
> `:has()`) released.
>
> I think we can get the number at about Apr (the next month after the 110
> released).
>
> Will it be better to wait more so that we can see the number only for
> `:where()` and `:is()`?
>

>
>>>> 2. How is this feature related to `:has()`?
>>>>
>>>> This `@supports` behavior change was applied to the spec [1] while
>>>> resolving an issue of `:has()` [2]. At that time, `:has()` was a
>>>> forgiving-parsing pseudo class. So this feature was able to change the
>>>> result of `@supports selector(:has(:foo, a))` at first.
>>>>
>>>> But it is not true now since `:has()` is changed to unforgiving while
>>>> resolving the jQuery `:has()` conflict issue [3].
>>>>
>>>
>> Hmm, so the behavior change to `:has` landed
>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4090967> in
>> M110 without a feature flag nor an intent. How confident are we that this
>> is safe?
>> ^^ +Rune Lillesveen
>>
>
> I think it would not make a critical issue since,
> 1. the change only affects `:has()` validity if the `:has()` contains both
> valid and invalid arguments (e.g. `:has(:foo, a) { ... }`), and it will not
> be used often in the wild.
>     I got a comment saying something similar while landing the jQuery
> workaround  -
> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7676#issuecomment-1235724730
> 2. the change fixes the inconsistency in the existing :has() validity
> logic.
>     - Currently, `:has()`, `:has(:foo)` and `:has(:foo, :bar)` are
> invalid, but `:has(:foo, a)` is valid.
>     - After the change merged, all the above are invalid selector.
> 3. Basically, the conflict from the change(making `:has()` unforgiving)
> can be easily fixed by changing the selector. (e.g. change `:has(:foo, a)
> {...}` to `:has(:where(:foo, a)) {...}` or `where(:has(:foo), :has(a))
> {...}`),
>
> Will it be better to add a feature for this change and add some metrics
> (something like, how many page loads use :has() with both valid and invalid
> selector) before releasing it to stable?
>

Adding a feature (including a base_feature) to the `:has` change would be
good. Would you be able to merge that back to 110?

I think we should tie the `:has` change to this intent. The risk profile
seems similar.


>
>
>>
>> Now this feature doesn't change the `@supports selector(:has(:foo, a))`
>>>> result. `@supports selector(:has(:foo, a))` returns always false regardless
>>>> of this feature since `:has(:foo, a)` is an invalid selector both inside
>>>> and outside of `@supports selector()`.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. The history about empty `:has()`
>>>>
>>>> This is a tricky part.
>>>> When the 105(the first `:has()` enabled version) is released to stable,
>>>> a workaround was merged [4] to avoid the jQuery conflict issue.
>>>>
>>>> At that time, `:has()` was a forgiving-parsing pseudo class, so
>>>> `:has(:foo)` and `:has()` should be a valid selector.
>>>>
>>>> But the workaround changed the behavior - make `:has()` invalid when
>>>> all the arguments are dropped.
>>>> - `:has()` is invalid because it doesn't have any argument.
>>>> - `:has(:foo)` is invalid because it doesn't have any argument after
>>>> the invalid argument `:foo` is dropped.
>>>> - `:has(:foo, a)` is valid because it has a valid argument `a` after
>>>> the invalid argument `:foo` is dropped.
>>>>
>>>> Last December, the jQuery conflict issue was resolved [3] and it was
>>>> applied to 110 [5] - make `:has()` unforgiving.
>>>> - `:has()` is invalid because it doesn't have any argument.
>>>> - `:has(:foo)` is invalid because it has an invalid argument `:foo`.
>>>> - `:has(:foo, a)` is invalid because it has an invalid argument `:foo`.
>>>>
>>>> Due to this, the result of `@supports selector(:has())` has been false
>>>> since 105.
>>>>
>>> OK, so the `:has` change only differs from currently shipped behavior if
>> there's a mix of invalid and valid arguments as part of the supports
>> statement. And given the fact that the M110 shipped behavior is stricter,
>> what we may see is more sites fallback if they have such :has supports
>> statements, but we wouldn't expect real breakage, because presumably the
>> fallbacks are reasonable?
>>
> Yes,  exactly. As I replied at above, the 110 change fixes the
> inconsistency of :has() validity, and the selector expression can be simply
> fixed if it creates actual problem on a site.
>
> In the perspective of the jQuery `:has()` conflict issue, this change
> fixes remaining bugs that the jQuery workaround doesn't fix.
> Currently jQuery has a bug on `$(':has(span, :contains(abc))')` since
> `@supports selector()` returns true for the selector and
> `querySelectorAll()` doesn't throw invalid selector exception.
> After making `:has()` unforgiving, jQuery can do its custom traversal for
> `:contains()` since `@supports selector()` returns false and
> `querySelectorAll()` throws exception.
>
>
>>
>>>> 4. Why does this feature not affect URLs that use WordPress yootheme?
>>>>
>>>> Because it checks with empty `:has()` - `@supports not
>>>> selector(:has())`.
>>>>
>>> `@supports not selector(:has())` has been always true since 105, and it
>>>> will still be true after this feature enabled because this feature doesn't
>>>> affect unforgiving parsing.
>>>>
>>>> The strange point is that the statement is useless(because it is always
>>>> true) and semantically incorrect [6].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. Why does this feature not affect URLs that use jQuery `:has()`?
>>>>
>>>> Because the jQuery `has()` conflict issue was already resolved by
>>>> making `:has()` unforgiving [3], [5], and this feature doesn't affect
>>>> unforgiving parsing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6. In short,
>>>>
>>>> This feature will not affect `:has()` inside `@supports selector()`.
>>>>
>>>> This feature can affects `:is()` or `where()` inside `@supports
>>>> selector()`. (only when its argument is empty or invalid)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope that this has clarified the question.
>>>>
>>>  --------
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/3a2efb33d12f6667d6142e89609a982978b49223
>>>
>>> [2] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7280
>>>
>>> [3]
>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7676#issuecomment-1341347244
>>>
>>> [4]
>>> https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/2b818b338146d89e524c4fabc2c6f7fd7776937a
>>>
>>> [5]
>>> https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/commit/7278cf3bf630c7791ba4b4885eb7da64dc16eab2
>>> [6] It uses `@supports` like this:
>>>      @supports not selector(:has()) {
>>>       .woocommerce:has(> .woocommerce-MyAccount-navigation){
>>>         display:flex;
>>>         justify-content:space-between
>>>       }
>>>     }
>>>     I'm not sure but the `not` seems to be a workaround to make the
>>> block works.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2023년 1월 5일 목요일 오후 7시 8분 7초 UTC+9에 [email protected]님이 작성:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of questions below, plus another one: Is this change
>>>>> covered by a base feature
>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/third_party/blink/renderer/platform/RuntimeEnabledFeatures.md#generate-a-instance-from-a-blink-feature>
>>>>>  flag?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 12:34 PM Byungwoo Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked the top URLs in the ChromeStatus page. (TL;DR - this
>>>>>> feature looks not affect the existing behavior of the top URLs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was able to categorize the URLs as below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Checking `:has()` support
>>>>>> - Most of the URLs use `@supports` to check `:has()` support.
>>>>>> - `@support` behavior will not be changed for `:has()` (We can ignore
>>>>>> this case since `:has()` will be unforgiving after 110 released)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you clarify if the ':has()' behavior will change here or not? This
>>>>> last sentence seems to contradict the original message of the intent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - There are 2 sub cases:
>>>>>>      - URLs using WordPress yootheme [1]
>>>>>>      - URLs using jQuery `has()` [2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you confirm that both these cases won't break?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Checking `:where()` support
>>>>>> - Only one URL(https://learn.ooznest.co.uk/) uses `@supports` to
>>>>>> check `:where()` support.
>>>>>> - `@supports` behavior will be changed for `:where()` after this
>>>>>> feature enabled, but it will not affect the behavior of the web page 
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> the page handles both support and not support case[3].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only problem that I can see from the top URLs is checking
>>>>>> `:where()` support, but it looks very rare case and it may be already
>>>>>> handled like learn.ooznest.co.uk.
>>>>>> (I was able to see some incorrect usages while checking[4], but I
>>>>>> think it is another discussion of checking empty `:where()`, `:has()`)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that this feature does not have critical impact on the
>>>>>> existing behavior. And as shared previously, Safari and Firefox already
>>>>>> changed their implementations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about shipping this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] 6 URLs (6/10):
>>>>>>       - https://lavalmore.gr/
>>>>>>       - https://www.kussenwereld.nl/
>>>>>>       - https://thelocustgroveflowers.com/
>>>>>>       - https://shop.bmgi.com.au/
>>>>>>       - https://badaptor.com/
>>>>>>       - https://suicidprev.se/
>>>>>>     'theme1.css' of yootheme contains `@supports not selector(:has())
>>>>>> {...}` statement.
>>>>>>     (e.g.
>>>>>> https://thelocustgroveflowers.com/wp-content/themes/locust-ff/css/theme.1.css?ver=1669913762
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>     The `@supports not...` statement looks weird since the
>>>>>> conditional block contains rules using `:has()`.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2] 2 URLs (2/10):
>>>>>>       - https://www.midroog.co.il/
>>>>>>       - https://whadam.tistory.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [3] A stylesheet file has `@supports selector(:where()) {...}` and
>>>>>> `@supports not selector(:where()) {...}` statement.
>>>>>>     (
>>>>>> https://d3015z1jd0uox2.cloudfront.net/Assets/Guide/black/guide-all-j81VMtmAdGEcl2BaHR40jA.css
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [4] Passing empty `:has()` or `:where()` to `@supports selector()` to
>>>>>> check whether a browser supports the pseudo class.
>>>>>>     (e.g. `@supports not selector(:has())`, `@supports
>>>>>> selector(:where())`)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2023년 1월 3일 화요일 오후 6시 18분 31초 UTC+9에 Byungwoo Lee님이 작성:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Yoav,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chrome status shows the number from stable now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked these metrics.
>>>>>>> - https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4361
>>>>>>> (CSSAtSupportsDropInvalidWhileForgivingParsing)
>>>>>>> - https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/976
>>>>>>> (CSSAtRuleSupports)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the above metrics, some pages will be affected by this
>>>>>>> feature but it seems to be a relatively small fraction:
>>>>>>> - Only 0.50 % of page loads are dropping invalid selector while
>>>>>>> parsing forgiving selector inside '@supports selector()'.
>>>>>>> - 41.10% of page loads are using '@supports', but only 1.21%
>>>>>>> (0.5/41.1) of the page loads are dropping invalid selector while parsing
>>>>>>> forgiving selector inside '@supports selector()'.
>>>>>>> - Less than 0.01 % of top sites are dropping invalid selector while
>>>>>>> parsing forgiving selector inside '@supports selector()'.
>>>>>>> - 50.89% of top URLs are using '@supports', but less than 0.02%
>>>>>>> (0.01/50.89) of the URLs are dropping invalid selector while parsing
>>>>>>> forgiving selector inside '@supports selector()'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we move forward based on this? Or should I check another number?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2022년 12월 10일 토요일 오전 1시 26분 57초 UTC+9에 Byungwoo Lee님이 작성:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 108 branch is shipping to stable now, but the numbers from
>>>>>>>> stable doesn't seems to be applied to the ChromeStatus stats yet. It 
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> that the stable numbers will be applied at Jan. 1st.
>>>>>>>> - https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4361
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll reschedule the feature release to 112 so that we can revisit
>>>>>>>> this thread when we can get the numbers from stable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p.s. 1
>>>>>>>> This feature is not related to :has() anymore since :has() is now
>>>>>>>> unforgiving:
>>>>>>>> - Issue resolution:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7676#issuecomment-1341347244
>>>>>>>> - CL :
>>>>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4090967
>>>>>>>> This feature only affects :is()/:where() inside @supports.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p.s. 2
>>>>>>>> Once I get the stable number, I'll provide a comparison of these
>>>>>>>> two numbers that I can get from the ChromeStatus stats:
>>>>>>>> - Percentage of page loads that drop invalid while forgiving
>>>>>>>> parsing inside @supports selector
>>>>>>>>   (
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4361)
>>>>>>>> - Percentage of page loads that use @supports rule
>>>>>>>>   (https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/976
>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The comparison doesn't prove anything, but I think we can at least
>>>>>>>> guess how much the @supports change affects the existing behavior:
>>>>>>>> Assuming the current numbers in the above links are from stable,
>>>>>>>> about 40% of the loaded pages use @supports rule, but only 0.002% of 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> loaded pages hit the case of dropping invalid selector while forgiving
>>>>>>>> selector parsing inside @supports. By simply comparing the numbers, I 
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> we can say that 1/20000 of the @supports rule usages will be affected 
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> the feature.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2022년 10월 10일 월요일 오후 11시 18분 41초 UTC+9에 Byungwoo Lee님이 작성:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To continue this thread after getting the stable Chrome's use
>>>>>>>>> counter, I changed the estimated milestone of this feature from 109 
>>>>>>>>> to 111.
>>>>>>>>> I'll share the use counter after the version 108 released.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2022년 9월 29일 목요일 오전 11시 52분 43초 UTC+9에 Byungwoo Lee님이 작성:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/27/22 10:07, Byungwoo Lee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/22 00:40, Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:25 PM Byungwoo Lee <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Yoav and Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback! I replied inline.
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/22 22:18, Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 3:15 PM Mike Taylor <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Byungwoo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/22 4:34 AM, Byungwoo Lee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-conditional-4/#support-definition-ext
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some functional selectors are parsed forgivingly. (e.g. :is(),
>>>>>>>>>>>> :has()) If an argument of the functional selectors is unknown or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the argument is dropped but the selector itself is not 
>>>>>>>>>>>> invalidated. To
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a way of detecting the unknown or invalid arguments in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>> functional selectors, this feature applies the CSS Working Group 
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution: - @supports uses non-forgiving parsing for all 
>>>>>>>>>>>> selectors (
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7280#issuecomment-1143852187
>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I understanding correctly that content that now uses a
>>>>>>>>>>> functional selector argument that's invalid may break as a result 
>>>>>>>>>>> of this?
>>>>>>>>>>> If so, do we have usecounters to that effect?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it can change the previous behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This changes the selector parsing behavior only for the
>>>>>>>>>>> selectors inside @supports selector().
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if authors expected true for '@supports
>>>>>>>>>>> selector(:is(:some-invalid-selector))', this feature will break it 
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> the return value will be changed to false after this feature is 
>>>>>>>>>>> enabled.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that we have the usecounters of the case: counting
>>>>>>>>>>> drop of invalid selector inside @supports selector.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it doesn't exists but it is needed, I think we can add it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Will it be better to add it to get use counters before ship it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, knowing the order of magnitude of potential breakage would
>>>>>>>>>> be good.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I landed a CL to add the use counter:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/commit/d060459d174c468a78d69d4e2a12925e0e7ab216
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It counts the drop of invalid selector while forgiving selector
>>>>>>>>>> parsing inside @supports selector(). We can see the stats with
>>>>>>>>>> CSSAtSupportsDropInvalidWhileForgivingParsing(4361):
>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4361
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This will be in 108 version so hopefully we can get the use
>>>>>>>>>> counter after the version is released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    - beta (Oct 27)
>>>>>>>>>>    - stable (Nov 29)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll share the stats when it released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you expand on why you think a TAG review is not needed here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that we don't need TAG review and the reason was
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - This is already specified in the spec:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-conditional-4/#support-definition-ext
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://drafts.csswg.org/css-conditional-4/#support-definition-ext>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Firefox already landed it:
>>>>>>>>>>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1789248
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will it be better to change the TAG review status to 'Pending'?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1789248
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please link to these signals?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> WebKit:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Explained about this in a blog post:
>>>>>>>>>>>   https://webkit.org/blog/13096/css-has-pseudo-class/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Web developers:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Thumbs ups in the CSSWG issue:
>>>>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7280
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - jQuery applied the spec:
>>>>>>>>>>>   https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/5107
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rego let me know what I missed (Thanks!), so I'm updating this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This specification change has been implemented in WebKit as well
>>>>>>>>>> as Firefox:
>>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244808
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I updated the 'Safari views' and 'Tag review' in the chromestatus
>>>>>>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *WebKit:* Shipped/Shipping
>>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244808
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Tag review*
>>>>>>>>>> No TAG review
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - This is already specified in the spec:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-conditional-4/#support-definition-ext
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Firefox and WebKit already implemented it:
>>>>>>>>>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1789248
>>>>>>>>>>   https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244808
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Tag review status*
>>>>>>>>>> pending
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could this update affect the shipping decisions?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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