Hi Joe, This feature is shipping in 104. I updated the chromestatus entry.
Thanks for pinging. On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 12:18 AM Joe Medley <[email protected]> wrote: > Is this shipping in 105? Please add that to the status entry. > Joe Medley | Technical Writer, Chrome DevRel | [email protected] | > 816-678-7195 > *If an API's not documented it doesn't exist.* > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 2:03 AM Hayato Ito <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks all, for your support and the LGTMs. >> >> I appreciate the API owners, the Mozilla folks and the others, who >> reviewed this feature carefully and gave us the advice to make this feature >> interoperable and be an important step on future improvements on the Web >> Platform. >> >> I'll continue to invest in standards. Thanks! >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 2:11 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> LGTM3 >>> >>> I was similarly convinced by the team's efforts and by various folks >>> chiming in that this has a good chance of reaching eventual interop on its >>> own. The use cases this tackles span origin isolation, delivery and >>> performance (despite the lack of cache awareness in the current version), >>> and I'm hopeful that this would be an important stepping stone on which >>> future improvements will be built. Thanks!! >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:15 AM Chris Harrelson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> LGTM2 >>>> >>>> Web bundles team: thank you for your thoroughness in responding to >>>> concerns raised in the TAG review, Mozilla standards position, and various >>>> offline conversations. I also appreciate those who weighed in on the thread >>>> with additional sites that would use this feature, and the multiple use >>>> cases mentioned. >>>> >>>> At first, I was concerned about the risk of not achieving eventual >>>> interoperability, because of the limited data from experimenting sites and >>>> mixed or possibly negative signals from other browser vendors. The >>>> additional data mentioned above, on top of the existing ads-related use >>>> case from the original intent, and coupled with my belief that the team >>>> will continue to invest in standards in this area, leads me to conclude >>>> that this feature is worth shipping now. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 8:37 AM Alex Russell <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There are high-scale operational challenges to distributing content >>>>> optimally in many scenarios (e.g., Store packaged first-run or >>>>> out-of-the-box-experiences) that need more than what Service Workers alone >>>>> can provide. We are positive about this technology because it can help >>>>> address those problems and open up new product opportunities (that we >>>>> cannot say more about). >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 10:26:28 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >> You could have used a service worker and cache things in order to >>>>>> get the same thing, combined with progressive web applications for >>>>>> installability. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is true, but I think ergonomics of an encapsulated >>>>>> page/application make it easier to reason about for very large >>>>>> applications. Maintaining the service worker and the cache at scale can >>>>>> become a barrier to entry for some developers and applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 10:12:33 AM UTC-7 PhistucK wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not that I am against, but does this unlock previously locked >>>>>>> opportunities in the specific examples you just mentioned? >>>>>>> You could have used a service worker and cache things in order to >>>>>>> get the same thing, combined with progressive web applications for >>>>>>> installability. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ☆*PhistucK* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:35 PM 'Ben Mathwig' via blink-dev < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Microsoft has a strong interest in seeing this feature ship. We >>>>>>>> believe that sub-resource bundling is opening the door to a new way of >>>>>>>> shipping and delivering offline web applications, changing the >>>>>>>> traditional >>>>>>>> definition of “web application”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here are some ways Microsoft products can take advantage of this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *PowerApps* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Microsoft PowerApps allows a developer to author an application and >>>>>>>> deploy to iOS, Android, and the web. The first two platforms allow >>>>>>>> applications to be deployed and used when the device is offline, but >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> latter is currently not “installable” on the device. Web bundling could >>>>>>>> unlock the capability for a web application to be “installed” on a >>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>> to operate offline. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Office Online* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Office productivity web applications are a perfect example of >>>>>>>> applications that could benefit from a packaged bundle of application >>>>>>>> resources. Combined with local storage APIs, this could help developers >>>>>>>> reach communities that have little to no network connectivity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While there have been concerns brought up by the community, we >>>>>>>> welcome the opportunity to collaborate on addressing these issues in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> next iteration of this project. We feel confident we can resolve them >>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>> way that preserves the integrity of the open web. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ben Mathwig >>>>>>>> Senior Product Manager >>>>>>>> Microsoft Edge Web Platform >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 6:28:50 PM UTC-7 [email protected] >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am sharing the feedback from the Origin Trial with 12 >>>>>>>>> participants: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 10 of them responded "Extremely likely" to "How likely are you >>>>>>>>> to keep using this feature?" >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Qualitative feedback: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I'm very excited about the CSP interpretation change rolling >>>>>>>>> out in M92" >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "looking forward to the CSP fix!" >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I'm very glad you're working on this!" >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "This feature is great! I'd love to see it fully launch" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Daisuke >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 5:38 AM 'Jeff Kaufman' via blink-dev < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Otto! As someone who used to work on mod_pagespeed I >>>>>>>>>> wanted to give a bit more context on how web bundles improve on what >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> possible for automatic site optimization tools like mod_pagesped: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Combining many small images into a single file otherwise >>>>>>>>>> requires spriting (with css to identify which area of the image you >>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>> for each usage) and mod_pagespeed's ability to do that automatically >>>>>>>>>> (sprite_images >>>>>>>>>> filter <https://www.modpagespeed.com/doc/filter-image-sprite>) >>>>>>>>>> is limited. It needs to understand the site's css and the publisher >>>>>>>>>> needs >>>>>>>>>> to have already set their css up to minimize the changes required. >>>>>>>>>> With >>>>>>>>>> bundles it is much simpler: you put all the tiny image files in the >>>>>>>>>> bundle, >>>>>>>>>> and you rewrite the URLs to point into the bundle. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Combining many small css or js files into a single file ( >>>>>>>>>> combine_css <https://www.modpagespeed.com/doc/filter-css-combine> >>>>>>>>>> , combine_js <https://www.modpagespeed.com/doc/filter-js-combine>) >>>>>>>>>> requires hacks to prevent invalid css or js from breaking the rest. >>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>> reasonably common that publishers will have <link rel=stylesheet >>>>>>>>>> href=invalid.css> that doesn't parse, and if you blindly concatenate >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> other css you will change the layout on the page. Since automatic >>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>> optimization tools like mod_pagespeed want to make the site load >>>>>>>>>> faster >>>>>>>>>> without making any changes to how the site looks, that isn't >>>>>>>>>> acceptable. >>>>>>>>>> Same issue with js. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Today you need to have separate files for combined images, >>>>>>>>>> css, and js. With web bundles there can be just one. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 1:11:16 PM UTC-4 Otto van der Schaaf >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As a maintainer of mod_pagespeed <https://www.modpagespeed.com/>, >>>>>>>>>>> I would love to see this ship. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:42:15 PM UTC+2 slightlyoff via >>>>>>>>>>> Chromestatus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft would like to see this ship ASAP. 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