> Any usecounter stats you can share?

Unfortunately no usecounters for two reasons:

1) Payment APIs in general have very low usage when compared to 'page
loads', because the most popular sites on the web aren't merchants and so
don't use them. For example, PaymentRequest.show is at 0.001
<https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2895>.
They're still very important, so we have to measure usage other ways :)

2) In particular for basic-card, it's actually just a method-type of
PaymentRequest, so our top-level usecounters don't show it.

We have internal stats that I can't share publicly due to sensitivity
(Googlers, feel free to ping me for a link), but I can share that of
transactions using PaymentRequest, basic-card is ~2% of all transactions
and <1% of completed transactions. So it's a very niche feature that also
performs poorly.

Max has also done an analysis of the top 10 sites from UKM data that use
basic-card. For 4, he couldn't get to the payments page or couldn't get it
to trigger basic-card at all (possibly geographically gated), but for the
remaining 6 he confirmed that all 6 function properly in a version of
Chrome that has basic-card disabled (falling back to the same behavior they
use for Firefox + Safari).

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 03:26, Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:25 PM Liquan (Max) Gu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Contact [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>> Specificationhttps://www.w3.org/TR/payment-method-basic-card/
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> Deprecate the "basic-card" payment method from PaymentRequest API.
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>Payments
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPayments>
>>
>> Motivation
>>
>> * Its usage is low and declining, underperforms other payment methods in
>> time-to-checkout and completion rate and does not have improvement
>> potential.
>>
>
> Any usecounter stats you can share?
>
>> * W3C's interest in it has waned. 6 participants supported the
>> deprecation and no objection[1], and W3C has deprecated the spec[2]. [1]
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2021Aug/0038.html
>> [2] https://github.com/w3c/payment-method-basic-card/pull/90/files
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>> * Chrome is the only implementer of basic-card, so the basic-card removal
>> from Chrome will increase interoperability.
>> * Since no other browser implements basic-card, web developers already
>> need workarounds to support other browsers.
>> * Whether basic-card is supported can be detected via canMakePayment
>> <https://w3c.github.io/payment-request/#canmakepayment-method>. Web
>> developers normally use this to decide whether to fallback to other methods.
>> * We have checked the few top sites via UKM - they all appear to work
>> with basic-card disabled because they fallback to other methods to get
>> payment info.
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/1209835
>>
>> Estimated milestonesM96
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5730051011117056
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