On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:15:22PM +0000, Ken Moffat wrote:

(boring expansion of details follows, as a reminder for when I come
to edit the book)
> 
> My tentative conclusion is that firefox57 will start pulseaudio, but
> that 58 does not.  I've separately had a report that xfce starts
> pulseaudio, so perhaps the solution for me is to add this to
> .xinitrc.
> 

This is specifically a problem for me when I run icewm, I suspect
that both xfce and kde (if I ever build that again) might start
pulse themselves.  So, in the part of ~/.xinitrc where I already
test if I am running icewm, I added

 pulseaudio -V --log-target=syslog

(for systemd the target would be journald)

BUT - it failed to get the cookie or to load its modules, and
therefore ended.

From a running Xorg I then removed all of ~/.pulse - some of that
was apparently *really* old, from when I copied things from an old
machine to bring this one up, so it is possible that ~/.pulse is an
old location.

I then successfully started pulseaudio.

Closed Xorg, ran startx again, this time pulseaudio had started and
I had sound in firefox.

ĸen
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