On 02-03-2015 01:51, Ken Moffat wrote: > I was looking at what remains to be tagged. People will know that > I do not believe in desktop environments, but I also put Wayne's > gnome-3 stuff into the book because that seemed like the right thing > to do. Since then, a lot of it has dropped out, and Fernando has > done a good job in keeping the rest of it up to date. But at the > moment he is still building a 7.7 system, and Bruce seems keen to > get 7.7 out. Also, I do not think that we should rely on individual > editors - there have been enough errors in my own commits for me to > prefer that other people test the things I have touched before we > release, and I am sure that other editors have a similar wish for > other people to test what they changed. > > For myself, the only parts of gnome which I still build are > gucharmap (there are no alternatives) and evince (now a PITA to use, > but it works where other non-QT PDF viewers fail). But I cannot tag > even those, because I omit recommended dependencies (in particular, > gobject introspection, and also vala if that gets pulled in). > > So, I took a look at what I would have to reinstate/create scripts > for. It seems to me that there are many weirdnesses in the current > deps, and there are a few applications which I would not build even > if you paid me money (cheese - I have no suitable camera, > file-roller (I thought it was unuseful - no, that was not the phrase > I originally wrote), gnome-nettool (too many deps I don't need), > network-manager-applet (all my 7.7 boxes hav wired ethernet). But I > also remember that totem - after Fernando fixed the grilo plugins - > looked like something I might want to use in the future, so I kept > looking... > > On the face of it, gnome is all gtk+-3. But (trying to minimise > what needs to be built), avahi appears to be needed for (at least) > webkitgtk+-2.6, and appears to need both gtk+-3 and gtk+-2. > > And then gnome needs two different versions of webkitgtk+ (2.4.8 for > yelp, 2.6.5 for epiphany). At that point I decided that I was in no > hurry to reacquaint myself with this can of worms. > > So, this is first of all a note to Bruce that there are some messy > things still to be tagged before we are ready for 7.7, and second a > question whether anybody actually cares enough about gnome to test > it ? I'm not especially keen on dropping things, and I'm > particularly grateful to Fernando for what he has done to keep > evince and gucharmap buildable, but is it time to belatedly join > Slackware in saying "enough is enough" ? > > ĸen >
ĸen, everyday I read this post and if you have read other posts I sent in the two last days, I'm always thinking about it. I mostly agree with you, but am trying to get a solution between replacing the gnome packages in the book by Mate or Cinnamon ones (mate, by prefernce, as it is mor Gnome 2 alike), or reviving the whole Gnome, ore placeit by a full Mate or Cinnamon. But I still am an LXDE user. BTW, file-roller is useless for us, but people that never used a terminal do need it. I spent half a day, yesterday, trying to give telephone support to a girl, friend of mine. Could guide a complete Lubuntu release update, but at the end, the wifi driver (Broadcom card, PITA) didn't work, after rebooting, and she is deciding if will bring the netbook here, or by a new machine running W*. -- []s, Fernando -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
