Jonathan Aquilina <mailto:jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
August 1, 2019 at 1:05 AM
Hi Gerald,
I think the question is how do these cloud providers let such
misconfigurations get through to production systems. Arent audits
carried out to ensure that this doesn’t happen?
Regards,
Jonathan
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From: Beowulf <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org> On Behalf Of Gerald Henriksen
Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:46
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Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Lustre on google cloud
Not sure what the Capital One data breach has to do with the cloud, it
was (yet again?) misconfigured software that allowed the theft.
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Gerald Henriksen <mailto:ghenr...@gmail.com>
July 31, 2019 at 8:45 PM
Not sure what the Capital One data breach has to do with the cloud, it
was (yet again?) misconfigured software that allowed the theft.
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Jonathan Aquilina <mailto:jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
July 31, 2019 at 12:10 AM
Hi Jon,
They now have Lustre through FSx or what ever AWS have called it. I am
not sure you guys have heard about the capital one data breach but at
times im still rather weary of the cloud.
Regards,
Jonathan
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*Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2019 01:03
*To:* Douglas Eadline <deadl...@eadline.org>
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*Subject:* Re: [Beowulf] Lustre on google cloud
AWS has a host of free tier sercives you should blend together.
Elastic Beanstalk and Lambda (AWS proprietary lambda) can move lots of
data below a cost level.
Your volume will automatically cause billing obviously. I have a
friend at AWS. Maybe something new is going on, I can check up with him.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 11:24 AM Douglas Eadline <deadl...@eadline.org
<mailto:deadl...@eadline.org>> wrote:
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Jonathan Engwall <mailto:engwalljonathanther...@gmail.com>
July 30, 2019 at 7:03 PM
AWS has a host of free tier sercives you should blend together.
Elastic Beanstalk and Lambda (AWS proprietary lambda) can move lots of
data below a cost level.
Your volume will automatically cause billing obviously. I have a
friend at AWS. Maybe something new is going on, I can check up with him.
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Douglas Eadline <mailto:deadl...@eadline.org>
July 29, 2019 at 2:04 PM
What would be the reason for getting such large data sets back on premise?
Why not leave them in the cloud for example in an S3 bucket on amazon or
google data store.
I think this touches on the ownership issue I have seen some
people mention (I think Addison Snell or i360). That is, you own
the data but not the infrastructure.
To use the "data lake" analogy, you start
out creating a swimming pool in the cloud. You own
the water, but it is in someone else's pool. Manageable.
At some point your little pool becomes a big lake. Moving the lake,
for any number of reasons, become a really big issue and possibly
unmanageable.
"For any number of reasons" can be cost, performance, access,
etc. and the issues you never imagined (a black swan as it were)
Just like everything else, it all depends ... (and how risk adverse
you are).
--
Doug
Regards,
Jonathan
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From: Beowulf <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org> On Behalf Of Chris Samuel
Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2019 03:36
To: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Lustre on google cloud
On Friday, 26 July 2019 4:46:56 AM PDT John Hearns via Beowulf wrote:
Terabyte scale data movement into or out of the cloud is not scary in
2019.
You can move data into and out of the cloud at basically the line rate
of your internet connection as long as you take a little care in
selecting and tuning your firewalls and inline security devices.
Pushing 1TB/day etc.
into the cloud these days is no big deal and that level of volume is
now normal for a ton of different markets and industries.
Whilst this is true as Chris points out this does not mean that there
won't be data transport costs imposed by the cloud provider (usually for
egress).
All the best,
Chris
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