Thanks for the great explanation and clarification. Another question that stems from the below what mechanisms exist in terms of security for the containers to be as secure as a VM?
Regards, Jonathan On 23/05/2019, 14:23, "Bill Broadley" <b...@cse.ucdavis.edu> wrote: On 5/23/19 3:49 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:> Hi Guys, > > > > Can someone clarify for me are containers another form of virtualized systems? > Or are they isolated environments running on bare metal? Generally virtual machines run their own kernel. Typically CPU overhead is close to zero, but things like network or disk I/O can be heavily impacted. VMs also typically require carving out a chunk of ram from the host system and giving it to the guest. So the memory overhead is inflexible, and mostly static. There are workarounds (like balloon memory drivers), but generally the memory overhead is high. Virtual machines also boot much like a regular OS, 10s of seconds to minutes is common. Containers do not involve a second kernel, but instead use cgroups (or similar on other platforms) to give a container a chunk of system resources. This makes it easy to run a container expecting a different set of libraries, file system layout, accounts, namespace, filesystems, etc to run on the same host. While you can limit the ram allocated to a container, it only has to consume what it needs. Cgroups can limit what a container can do, but generally the isolation is not as good as with a virtual machine. Containers can launch in a small fraction of a second. One experiment I did ran fedora, rhel, and ubuntu containers and ran "uname -a" or equivalent in all 3. I was able to launch all 3, get the output, and shut them all down in under 1 second. The I/O and network overhead of containers is minimal, because you are using the same kernel. To the host kernel the difference between a container and a process is minimal. To further confuse things, often people end up running a collection of containers in a virtual machine. Kubernetes (and many other platforms) can use this model. But you can run containers on "bare metal", without using any virtual machine, just directly on the underlying OS. Hopefully that helps. _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit https://beowulf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beowulf