Last I spoke to someone who worked at RH understanding their support fees and 
how that all works is one giant mess.

Regards,
Jonathan

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From: Beowulf <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org> On Behalf Of Gerald Henriksen
Sent: 21 May 2019 15:21
To: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

On Mon, 20 May 2019 18:42:31 -0400, you wrote:

>I am curious, do you have some evidence for the demise of CentOS other 
>than IBM bought RH?

The important thing to remember about CentOS (and presumably why Red Hat 
brought it on board) is that it is not really a RHEL competitor, rather it is a 
RHEL marketing tool.

Red Hat, for RHEL, needs to worry about Ubuntu who (as far as I know) make no 
difference between the LTS release publicly available to all and the version 
they offer paid support for.

Red Hat needs a similiar arrangement, and CentOS does that for them.
They need the "free" version of the OS that start ups and companies can use 
legally while building a project / business and then when and if they decide 
they want paid support then RHEL is the obvious choice.

If there is no CentOS then that market defaults to Ubuntu, and if you are 
running Ubuntu and you now need the insurance that paid support offers you are 
unlikely to suddenly change your infrastructure to RHEL.

My observation / opinion is that IBM isn't the real threat to Red Hat, rather 
Red Hat is the biggest threat to Red Hat.

Like any organization that has been around for a while various "kingdoms" have 
been established within Red Hat, and those combined with inertia mean Red Hat 
hasn't been making the changes or tough decisions that I suspect the market is 
moving towards.
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