>If a sys admin position involves shell prorgramming/scripting, knowing the details of a specific programming language or processor are secondary, but thinking like a >programmer is skill not everyone has or can develop.Just last week a wrote a Lua script without knowing a thing about Lua. I looked at the example scripts, and then >googled to fill in the blanks. I think most SysAdmins do stuff like that on a regular basis.
Nooo.. I would never do that. At one stage I had a whole shelf of Oreilly books at work. Still have them at home, but a bunch went to Textbooks for Africa recently. My local library gladly accepted some rather heavy tomes on parallel programming. Goodness knows what the residents of SE London make of them. I rather hope that some youngster is inspired by one of the books. On 19 June 2018 at 18:01, Prentice Bisbal <pbis...@pppl.gov> wrote: > Despite the source (just kidding, Bill!) I'm going to have to support this > line of questioning. > > HPC (and general IT), consists of systems with many different layers, and > it takes the correct personality type with the good analytical skills to be > able to trouble shoot things effectively. I really don't care about > questioning an interviewee about technical minutiae in an interview. Most > of that can be easily googled these days. The real value/skill is in coming > up with a plan of attack: knowing where to start troubleshooting, what to > google, how to correctly interpret those google results, and then now to > apply what you find online to fix your problem. > > If a sys admin position involves shell prorgramming/scripting, knowing the > details of a specific programming language or processor are secondary, but > thinking like a programmer is skill not everyone has or can develop.Just > last week a wrote a Lua script without knowing a thing about Lua. I looked > at the example scripts, and then googled to fill in the blanks. I think > most SysAdmins do stuff like that on a regular basis. > > If a position involves writing optimized code, I wouldn't apply this logic > - getting really good performance can require knowing the minutiae of a > specific language, but most HPC sys admins don't do that level of > programming. > > I also look for people who have hobbies that involve understanding how > things go together and work: working on bicycles or cars, electronics, etc. > If you can understand how other things go together or work, computers, are > not that big of a jump. > > Prentice > > > On 06/13/2018 02:37 PM, Bill Abbott wrote: > >> One of my standard interview questions is to say ok, you start on Monday >> and you're placed in charge of a web/db server, tell me what you do your >> first week. >> >> What I want to hear is security, backups, log checking, monitoring, >> performance, functionality, etc., but most of all I want to know how they >> think and if they can come up with a coherent plan. >> >> Another version is "A user says the cluster is slow. What do you do?" >> >> Bill >> >> On 06/13/2018 02:27 PM, Andrew Latham wrote: >> >>> Such a broad topic. I would assume things like DHCP, TFTP, Networking, >>> PXE and IPMI which come to mind. Troubleshooting tools, configuration >>> management, version control, monitoring, issue tracking and many other >>> processes are at play. I would love to hear any interview questions which >>> could cover this array of topics sanely. >>> >>> Suggested question: Tell me the best hardware horror story? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:08 PM Jonathan Engwall < >>> engwalljonathanther...@gmail.com <mailto:engwalljonathanthereal >>> @gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> John Hearne wrote: >>> > Stuart Midgley works for DUG? They are currently >>> > recruiting for an HPC manager in London... Interesting... >>> >>> Recruitment at DUG wants to call me about Low Level HPC. I have at >>> least until 6pm. >>> I am excited but also terrified. My background is C and now >>> JavaScript, mostly online course work and telnet MUDs. >>> Any suggestions are very much needed. >>> What must a "low level HPC" know on day 1??? >>> Jonathan Engwall >>> engwalljonathanther...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:engwalljonathanther...@gmail.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org >>> <mailto:Beowulf@beowulf.org> sponsored by Penguin Computing >>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A% >>> 2F%2Fwww.beowulf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fbeowulf&data=02% >>> 7C01%7Cbabbott%40rutgers.edu%7C3dccc87b23f6445e544e08d5d15b6 >>> 9b1%7Cb92d2b234d35447093ff69aca6632ffe%7C1%7C0%7C63664511290 >>> 5753024&sdata=sr%2FGxwT6uV5hOD029A6Pgbc7%2BGrciWMP7jq77Ap1sy >>> 0%3D&reserved=0> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Andrew "lathama" Latham - >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing >>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A% >>> 2F%2Fwww.beowulf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fbeowulf&data=02% >>> 7C01%7Cbabbott%40rutgers.edu%7C3dccc87b23f6445e544e08d5d15b6 >>> 9b1%7Cb92d2b234d35447093ff69aca6632ffe%7C1%7C0%7C63664511290 >>> 5763036&sdata=S%2BJM%2BswwtGQFNk8VTDEbWQQnXhpoTQx5CYJR5Wxyuu >>> 4%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing >> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >> > > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >
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