Jim Lux

From: Bob Drzyzgula [mailto:b...@drzyzgula.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Lux, Jim (337C)
Cc: Ellis H. Wilson III; Beowulf List
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] 10GbE Adapter Market

FWIW, a couple of refinements to what's been discussed. COTS actually stands 
for "Commercially available Off The Shelf", often shortened to simply 
"Commercial Off The Shelf", and it is a legal term defined in the Federal 
Acquisition Regulations, or FAR. See

http://www.acquisition.gov/far/html/Subpart%202_1.html#wp1145508

>>>So that would imply that COTS as a term has been around since 1984 when the 
>>>FAR was created out of the DAR and civil equivalents. 

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_off-the-shelf

Also, Jim's point about U.S. law giving the government the best price on all 
products is missing one essential point: The requirement only extends to 
products sold under a specific set of terms and conditions.

>>>Yes indeed..  It's that distinction in T&C that's important.  Relatively few 
>>>commercial customers insist on the level of paper work inherent in most 
>>>government procurements. There are a LOT of rules added over the years to 
>>>address some problem or another that result in this: a lot is because of 
>>>some previous "sharp practice" that gets a lot of notice.  A commercial 
>>>entity can sort of take a generic cost benefit analysis approach and say 
>>>"well, we get ripped off occasionally, but the cost of preventing the ripoff 
>>>is greater than the amount we lose".  The government, in general, cannot. 

[BTW, that site is also a great place to find ballpark prices for items for 
which prices aren't typically advertised and you typically have to waste your 
time talking to a salesman. Not everything is in there, but if you want to get 
a quick idea of how much, say, a 3par storage array will cost, you can probably 
find someone listing it there]

>>> It sure is.  The other place to find pricing info is in state agency bid 
>>> lists.
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