Richard Chang wrote:
Joe Landman wrote:

Its a software RAID implementation pretending to be a hardware RAID implementation. They are rarely if ever as good as MD. Many of them in Linux will invoke dm (the "other" RAID engine) as dm has "support" for fake-raid. Note that we have lost data (multiple times) with dm+fake-raid in testing, so we don't recommend its use in important machines (ones which you can't afford to lose). This could be due to bad drivers for the chips in question, but we aren't taking chances.


Hello Joe,
I would like to know specifically what models of LSI boxes are software RAID implementation pretending to be a hardware RAID implementation. I

Hi Richard:

This I cannot tell you, as I don't have a comprehensive list of what uses what driver. I'd suggest looking at what drivers it loads for disks when it comes up. If dmraid comes up *and* enumerates devices, you have a strong probability that it is a fake-raid. This is not to say dmraid is bad. Again, its the underlying driver or chipset that we often run into problems with.

have a few LSI boxes where I work, and your post made me think if they really are Hardware RAID implementation.

I have the LSI 2822(old), LSI 4900 & also LSI 7900 controllers based storage.

How do we differentiate between the software and hardware RAID implementations. ANY visual difference?, are they identifiable?.

Rarely. Fake raid will generally not have any RAM cache or battery backup capability.

In some instances, fake raid is *ok* for OS drives (RAID1 only), if the bios is smart enough to use it correctly, the underlying fake raid driver is relatively stable, and you have reasonable disks. Otherwise, mdadm works great, though you have to patch Redhat/Centos, as they, by default, use dmraid for the moment. Later model Fedora appear to have switched to MD raid (after 9 from what I saw, last time I played with it).


Richard.


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