Am 20.02.2009 um 15:37 schrieb Bogdan Costescu:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Glen Beane wrote:

I looked into SGE a long time ago, but I found the MPI support terrible when compared to TORQUE/PBS Pro

Indeed and AFAIK is still in a similar state today. There was talk for a long time on the SGE devel list for a TM API to be added, but it seems like this is not considered a high priority feature.

This is just, as they have a replacement called qrsh for the ususal rsh/ssh calls (as you know, but maybe others on the list not). Although it was in former times just using a special version of rsh, it was in the end under full control of SGE. In such a setup, the tradititonal rsh/ssh can be disabled completely inside the cluster (or ssh just limited to admin staff).

Nowadays it's replaced by a builtin startup method which is more scalable.

Having both, a TM and a tight integrated RSH/SSH replacement would of course be the best. Linda (which is Gaussian's parallel library) starts only with rsh/ssh. I see sites, having exactly for this purpose a "cleaner" script running in their Torque operated cluster to get rid of such kinds of jobs, as Torque can't know, what was started by rsh/ssh on some nodes.

I've not only looked but actually used SGE for about 1 year (IIRC, about 5 years ago) during which I had to spend time fixing the interactions with LAM/MPI and many of the parallel applications that were used on that cluster - and finally gave up.

It's successor Open MPI calls qrsh directly, when it discovers that it's running under SGE. It just checks some environment variables.

-- Reuti


On the plus side, during the time that SGE was used, I have never seen a process left behind from a job and the queueing system itself seemed very stable - something that I could not say for the OpenPBS/Torque that I've also tested at that time.

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Bogdan Costescu

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