On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Lux, James P wrote: This is a very nice response, and I think you're on a very good track. IIRC from discussion a few years ago, GPS can yield what, microsecond or better timing (if used to adjust drift and resync all clocks)? In principle sub-microsecond, since a microsecond is order of 300 meters and GPS can get you within 30.
The GPS synchronization problem is actually substantially easier. The propagation delay from satellite to receiver is varying in a very predictable manner (in fact, the nav solution solves for it); the signal is specifically designed for accurate timing (i.e. A PN code generated from a Cs clock is a darn good way to transmit timing and frequency information)
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Keeping it beowulf'y, if you want fine grained synchronization so that you don't lose performance when doing barriers, you're probably going to need some sort of common clock. The typical microprocessor crystal just isn't good enough. Actually, though, when talking about this sort of sync, aren't we getting close to SIMD sort of processing? Is a "cluster of commodity computers" actually a "good" way to be doing this sort of thing?
There is a natural synchronization driven by task advancement and barriers already. The problem, I think, is in getting "everything else" to be at least moderately synchronous, as it is the noise of this that degrades the otherwise synchronous task is it not? If one could convince the kernel to "start" all of its housekeeping task timeslices within (say) 1 usec worst case across all nodes, you would effectively parallelize and synchronize this noise. I don't think it would be necessary to shoot for true SIMD-like advancement, clock by clock -- only to drive systems into a (nearly) identical state so that one CPU is only rarely waiting on another because of a random out-of-step timeslice being allocated to something outside of the task. Organization OF the task is up to the parallel programmer, I would think, but it is generally done under the assumption that the loss of occasional timeslices doesn't much matter, only they do. However, I would think it would require a lot of work to get the kernel(s) to respect a usec-synchronized clock, assuming that one could constrain the hardware so that it didn't generate too much random (e.g. interrupt) noise on its own. rgb -- Robert G. Brown Phone(cell): 1-919-280-8443 Duke University Physics Dept, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Web: http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb Book of Lilith Website: http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Lilith/Lilith.php Lulu Bookstore: http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=877977 _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf