Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
Nah,

I guess he's referring to sometimes it's using single precision floating point
to get something done instead of double precision, and it tends to keep
sometimes stuff in registers.

That isn't a problem necessarily, but if i remember well floating point state
could get wiped out when switching to SSE2.

Sometimes you lose your FPU registerset in that case.

Main problem is that there is so many dangerous optimizations possible,
to speedup testsets, because in itself floating point is real slow to do at hardware,
from hardware viewpoint seen.

Yet in general last generations of intel compilers that has improved really a lot.
Well, running the same code here is the result discrepancy I got:
FLOPS:
my code has to do: 7,975,847,125,000 (~8Tflops) ...takes 15minutes on 8*2core Opeteron with 32 Gigs-o-RAM (thank you OpenMP ;)

The running times (ran it a _few_ times...but not the statistical minimum of 30):
   ICC -> runtime == 689.249  ; summed error == 1651.78
   GCC -> runtime == 1134.404 ; summed error == 0.883501

Compiler Flags:
   icc -xW -openmp -O3 vqOpenMP.c -o vqOpenMP
   gcc -lm -fopenmp -O3 -march=native vqOpenMP.c -o vqOpenMP_GCC

No trickery, no smoky mirrors ;) Just a _huge_ kick ASS k-Means parallelized with OpenMP (thank gawd, otherwise it takes hours to run) and a rather big database of 1.4 Gigs

... So this is what I meant by floating point errors. Yes, the runtime was almost halved by ICC (and this is on an *opteron* based system, Tyan VX50). The running time wasn't what I was actually looking for rather than precision skew and that's where I fell off my chair.

For the ones itching for a little more specs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ icc -V
Intel(R) C Compiler for applications running on Intel(R) 64, Version 10.1 Build 20080602
Copyright (C) 1985-2008 Intel Corporation.  All rights reserved.
FOR NON-COMMERCIAL USE ONLY

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Configured with: /dev/shm/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.1 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.1/include --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.1 --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.1/man --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.1/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.1/include/g++-v4 --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --with-system-zlib --disable-checking --disable-werror --enable-secureplt --enable-multilib --enable-libmudflap --disable-libssp --enable-cld --disable-libgcj --enable-languages=c,c++,treelang,fortran --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --with-bugurl=http://bugs.gentoo.org/ --with-pkgversion='Gentoo 4.3.1-r1 p1.1'
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.3.1 (Gentoo 4.3.1-r1 p1.1)

Vincent

On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:25 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote:

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 03:43:36PM -0400, Eric Thibodeau wrote:

Also, note that I've had issues with icc
generating really fast but inaccurate code (fp model is not IEEE *by
default*, I am sure _everyone_ knows this and I am stating the obvious
here).

All modern, high-performance compilers default that way. It's certainly
the case that sometimes it goes more horribly wrong than necessary, but
I wouldn't ding icc for this default. Compare results with IEEE mode.

-- greg


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