Gerry Creager wrote:

This will also be a big factor for University ITS departments
too which often seem to have (at least here in Australia) become
MS only shops.

It's not just in Oz. We see the same thing here. All the kids I interviewed this year had a lot of C# and .net "experience" with no grasp of how to do more general programming. Got a lot of folks who could do web work if we'd bring in FrontPage, too. And these were from our CompSci department...

Sadly, when I taught some HPC usage/programming classes a few years ago at my alma mater, the students varied between knowledgeable scientific computing users in chemistry/physics/biology, to people who "knew" Java and C++. The latter couldn't program in C for some reason. No. Really. Stop laughing. (for those that don't get it, C++ is C with some extra stuff added on ... they are for all intensive porpoises, the same language if you ignore OO stuff, generics/templates ...)

There were one or two people who knew Matlab programming. This is what they used to run their code, and they want to use a cluster to run Matlab faster.

Monoculture is not serving HPC well. CompSci has changed quite a bit from when I was in school. I don't know too many CompSci departments teaching Fortran these days. This is the case, though lots of the serious scientific students/researchers I meet are continuing to use it. I expect to hear of Fortress classes soon, and the next Fad-of-the-month classes soon. But some of the bedrocks of scientific computing are like Rodney Dangerfield ... they don't get no respect ...



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