At 03:37 PM 3/21/2008, Robert G. Brown wrote:
  And at
this point the question is moot because you'd have to be crazy to buy a
CRT >>over<< a flatpanel when you have to replace a monitor -- the
differential marginal cost at my payoff rate of $50-$60/year will pay
for the difference in a very short time, and CRTs eat desktop, weigh a
ton, and are full of lead

But what if you wanted to use the CRTs as shielding, saving you money on shielding that x-ray source you're testing. Or you needed the mass of the CRTs to hold your desk down in a seismic event. Or, you live in a cold climate, and the CRT is being used as " workspace heat source".

There's also the carbon footprint of you (or some vendor) shlepping those CRTs off to the dump, the cost of hazmat disposal of the CRT, and then the carbon footprint and cost of bringing the new flatpanel display home, etc.


One really does have to consider these other "system" issues...

(That's what I tell my wife about why I still have all those big CRT monitors out in the garage... they're providing radiation shielding)


(where yes, the flatpanels have mercury and
both have arsenic so it is a matter of choosing your toxin).  Overall
the environmental kindness of flatpanels beats that of CRTs, I would
judge.

In terms of toxin content of your output display device, I might point out that an ASR33 teletype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASR33) uses rolls of inexpensive newsprint type paper (preferred by beat poets! no interrupting the stream of consciousness with switching pages as you create), produced from a renewable resource (trees) and can be recycled after use, either as fuel or feedstock to make more teletype paper. They also draw almost no power when not actually typing (assuming you have the autostart for the motor turned on). Not much persistent toxic stuff in a teletype, just good old 19th century mechanical components made of steel, grease, etc. Nobody worries about fireproofing the housing either with brominated compounds.. they're made of steel as well. If you were to use one of those newfangled LA36 DECwriters or my own favorite, the TI 820KSR, which could print at a blistering 150cps, you're into the plastic case era (although probably not fireproof, but certainly lots of chlorinated hydrocarbons involved in the manufacture) (Why, yes, I have one of those in the garage too, the TI810, without keyboard, also providing shielding from radiation)

If you feel compelled to have computer generated graphs, plotters also use paper as their output media, and one could make the ink from oak galls, squid, etc., which is a quite sustainable source.


Just how much output do you really need to know that the answer is 42 (or 41 or 43)?

Spend those precious joules on computation, not eye candy.


Jim


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