On 14 Feb 2008, at 7:45 pm, Robert G. Brown wrote:

What the openssh people don't seem to "get" is that by FORCING people to
use encryption, they are actually keeping rsh alive and a potential
security risk for all sorts of people in the cluster business for whom
performance is more important than security given their networking
environment and goals.  Otherwise, who would ever install it?

Hear, hear. The openssh folks aren't alone in this; it's a common ailment afflicting authors of "security" software. They think they know better than the sysadmin. It's for your own good, now take your medicine. Personally, I'm with you - give the sysadmin the choice. I've had similar arguments in the past with the author of rssh, a restricted shell useful for cvs servers and the like. He refused to add support for allowing the user to change their password, because his view was that password authentication is evil and all users should be forced to use key authentication at all times. Oh great, so now I have users who ssh in using a private key for authentication over which I have no control - I have no idea whether it's held securely, whether it has a decent passphrase, or anything. At least if they were using passwords I could periodically run a cracker on the passwd file and check their password is sane. It's a similar scenario. The authors' high and mighty principles don't actually necessarily make my systems any more secure at all, quite possibly the reverse. Quite apart from the extra workload it puts on me. The average scientist doesn't really want to have to learn about ssh-agent and all that stuff.

Tim


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