On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:20 PM, David Mathog wrote:

Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

and, as we all know, real developers
use paper: tape, tab cards, or, if they must, teletype rolls.

You forgot paper tape.  (Most people who used it probably wish they
could forget it too!)

Anyway, all of the tools you mentioned are for wimps...

This exchange reminds me of a non-wimp I once worked with. Larry Wos, one of the inventors of the field of automated theorem proving, was blind. At Argonne National Laboratory in the early 70's, he programmed in assembly language (of course) using a Model 33 teletype, the kind with the paper tape output on the side. He had it modified to make bumps instead of punching holes. He could read the 5-bit Baudot code on that tape with his thumb as fast as I could read the printed output with my eyes.

Rusty Lusk
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