Toon Knapen wrote:
Mark Hahn wrote:
sure. the suggestion is only useful if the cluster is dedicated to a single purpose or two. for anything else, I really think that microbenchmarks are the only way to go.

I'm not sure that I agree with this - there are just so many different micro benchmarks that I would worry that relying upon them for anything other than basic system validation (which they are very good at) leaves the potential for some very big holes in your requirements. Especially in a general purpose system like the one proposed.


Why don't you make a list of multiple-choice questions in a style as described above and ask your users to fill that in. This solves also the 'weighting factor' because the users that respond to your question _care_ about the machine being suitable while the others care less.


This is an excellent idea. Even with 1000's of users, you still need to understand the mix of application types you will see. Then you can make some informed judgments on the overall system architecture. Some questions that you will need to consider:

- What is the "experience level" of your audience. ?
- Are they writing their own MPI or pthreads code? Or are they just using canned apps? What apps and how do you handle licenses? - Do you have a significant population who are looking to do larger scale (100+ process) MPI jobs? Is it worth the expense to invest in high-speed interconnects, or is GigE sufficient? - Pay attention to the storage system, both in scale and performance. It's often both a hidden bottleneck and a single point of failure.
- Do you have users who want to toss around Terabytes off data?
- How do you plan on backing up these Terabytes of data?

These are just a few off the top of my head. There are more. But I think that a quick fairly simple survey will be invaluable towards planning this facility.

Good luck,

-bill


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