At 07:15 AM 12/4/2006, Tim Moore wrote:
Update to node drop-off:


The AMD engineer with whom I talked was amazed that such CPUs made it beyond quality control. He also suggested that the vendor may have inadvertently mixed returned (previously fetermined to be flawed processors) with the new ones and sent them out (again) as new.

Just for future reference...is there an easy way to determine if a CPU is flawed with 2 weeks of down time and extensive hair extraction????


This has been a persistent problem in the industry for decades. It's not unheard of for wholesalers to get batches of processors that have been remarked somewhere along the line. They'll run at the speed at room temp, but not over the entire temperature range, or, maybe with some bus loading conditions. Obviously, the mfrs hate it when this occurs, and so, they've been doing things like making the speed grade readable from some built in ROM or as a bond wire option.

And, as much as the mfrs hate it, there's always the "fell of the back of the truck on the way to the disposal company" problem.. parts that don't pass the mfr inspection are supposed to be destroyed, but sometimes aren't.


Processors are a high dollar item for something quite compact, they're sort of commodity (at least as far as the end user is concerned), so they're ripe for all the fiddles that have been used on such items for millenia. Hey, didn't Archimedes get famous for devising some sort of test along those lines?

Jim


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