This thread doesn’t appear to appear on the revamped beagleboard forums..
correct me if I'm wrong..

Should it be added retroactively or should we create a thread on the new
forums with a link to this?

Thanks!


On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:01 PM 'Mark Lazarewicz' via BeagleBoard <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Walter and Cheng
>
> I spent 2 hours total doing following
>
> 1)Created Ubuntu 16.04 LTS  Dev Box using VBOX on Win 7
> 2) Created SDK linux SD card using image writer on Windows booted Linux on
> Beaglebone White
> 3) Rebuilt kernel sources created images of customized kernel and replaced
> these on SD card
>
> *I have a full development environ Now !!!!!*
>
> Next step add a kernel driver I wrote and understand how use the OCP
> shared RAM to get large amounts of data from PRU to linux
>
> ***************************************************************
>
>  _____                    _____           _         _
> |  _  |___ ___ ___ ___   |  _  |___ ___  |_|___ ___| |_
> |     |  _| .'| . | . |  |   __|  _| . | | | -_|  _|  _|
> |__|__|_| |__,|_  |___|  |__|  |_| |___|_| |___|___|_|
>               |___|                    |___|
>
> Arago Project http://arago-project.org am335x-evm ttyS0
>
> Arago 2019.11 am335x-evm ttyS0
>
> am335x-evm login: [  143.131162] NET: Registered protocol family 15
> [  143.545960] Initializing XFRM netlink socket
>
>  _____                    _____           _         _
> |  _  |___ ___ ___ ___   |  _  |___ ___  |_|___ ___| |_
> |     |  _| .'| . | . |  |   __|  _| . | | | -_|  _|  _|
> |__|__|_| |__,|_  |___|  |__|  |_| |___|_| |___|___|_|
>               |___|                    |___|
>
> Arago Project http://arago-project.org am335x-evm ttyS0
>
> Arago 2019.11 am335x-evm ttyS0
>
> am335x-evm login:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 02:39:31 PM CDT, 'Mark Lazarewicz' via
> BeagleBoard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> HI Cheng
>
> I have two Beaglebone White and the am335x SK both have JTAG on the board
> so no soldering.
> The key is to follow the labs 1 to 3 only dont use any RPMsg examples
> The other key is the PRU gel script is crucial there is a typo error in
> the instructions about correct .gel file name and how to execute it
> I used CCS 6.0 win 7 and CCS 10 on windows 10
>
> Id be glad to help if I can
>
> The power of the CCS/JTAG is reading memory locations and finding crashes
> quickly its worth the learning curve
>
> Any issues please ask but tell me your CCS version
>
> What I dont like about the PRU  tutorials is all use Linux interaction as
> in interrupts and they assume SDK linux not Debian
>
> Its some work but you could use Windows to create a SDK linux SD card for
> JTAG if problems
>
>  I have several jtags  one is USBV2 and I have yours I also have two BBB
> but even being EE I dont solder
>
> Let me know be glad to help trust me after you master CCS/JTAG you will be
> very happy and have an awesome tool in your belt
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Monday, May 10, 2021, 11:51:35 PM CDT, Cheng Chen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thanks a lot for the updates. I went through the SDK documents and I
> actually got a lot inspiration. Thanks for that.
> I bought an TMDSEMU110-U for debugging. That is recommended from TI
> tutorials of PRU debugging: PRU is connected with TMDSEMU110-U and then to
> the laptop. Is that how you debugged with JTAG ? I feel this approach is a
> little cumbersome since I need to set up a lot of environments manually.
> But it worked, so I just put up with it for now.
> I think both SDK and Beaglebone has a lot of interesting stuffs worth
> being explored. Appreciate your help!
>
> Regards,
> Cheng
> 在2021年5月8日星期六 UTC-4 下午7:52:41<lazarman> 写道:
>
> Hello Cheng
>
> I learned a few things this weekend I thought I would share
>
> The PRU  Labs examples 1 to 3 can be loaded with CCS and JTAG from Windows
> 10
>
> You can even debug both PRU0 and PRU1 at the same time examine memory and
> use HW  uart debug to speed up development
>
> The RPMSG example LAB  must be loaded by the linux or TI RTOS drivers
> running on ARM side
>
> I have win 7 and Windows 10 CCS/JTAG installations working one  a
> Beaglebone White and the other AM335X SK
> BBB is also supported
>
> My Last step is building the SDK  linux kernel from scratch  with rproc
> kernel modules loaded  from a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM on Win 7
>
> The Linux  SDK has binaries for the ARM side *so a  Native Linux BOX is
> NOT REQUIRED(but recommended )*
>
> *CCS DOES NOT require linux to load and debug PRU *
>
> For those that want to learn ARM TI RTOS Win 10 is required to build
>
> The SDK documents I saved as the wiki is disappearing are awesome I found
> some very detailed PRU documentation that talks about everything from
> running TI PRU firmware On PRU ICCS for complex Industrial protocols as
> well a custom PRU code
>
> The facts about clock cycles also were discussed. All of it in can be
> found by following the documentation tar ball I sent I you.
>
> I think too many people panic dont want to run SDK Linux or use CCS /JTAG
> dont read through all the documents as they dont want to go that route.
>
> Thats fine but the basic fundamentals of the whole SOC are then missed
> leading to confusion
>
> The SDK has done an excellent job of documenting this unfortunately unless
> your actually using the SDK all of this is hidden and I guess they are
> taking down some wikis so kind of sad this data will be lost.
>
> The approach in this group is wonderful especially for Linux App types
> that don't care about details
>  they just want a working kernel and actually making one script to build
> linux makes sense as supporting keystroke errors and inability to read docs
> in a chronological orderly way would be a nightmare.
>
> So in summary In my humble Opinion if your goal is writing Linux apps on a
> open source board the SDK probally is NOT for you.
>
> If your goal is barebones, TI  RTOS , board bring up, custom hardware ,
> DSP programming Cortex M4 programming , advanced PRU apps or learning or
> adding Linux Device drivers the SDK is a great asset.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 05:28:39 PM CDT, Cheng Chen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Walter,
>
> Sorry for the late reply.
> The most important part I modified for TI's makefile is to make sure that
> the firmware is loaded into remoteproc1. I basically replaced the loading
> procedure in the shell script with Molly's version which I attached below.
> I also added the entire include file and modified some of the constants and
> variable names in the c code because compiler reports errors of
> unrecognized header file and variables. But except those, it runs pretty
> well.
>
> start:
> ifneq ($(PRU_DIR),)
> @echo write_init_pins.sh
> @$(COMMON)/write_init_pins.sh /lib/firmware/$(CHIP)-pru$(PRUN)-fw
> @echo "-    Starting PRU $(PRUN)"
> @echo start > $(PRU_DIR)/state
> else ifeq ($(PROC),tidl)
> ti-mct-heap-check -c
> sudo mjpg_streamer -i "input_opencv.so -r 640x480 -d /dev/$(shell fgrep -v
> vpe /sys/class/video4linux/video*/name | perl -ne '/\/(video\d+)\/name/ &&
> print $$1') \
> --filter ./$(TARGET)$(EXE)" -o "output_http.so -p 8090 -w
> /usr/share/mjpg-streamer/www"
> else
> ./$(TARGET)$(EXE)
> endif
>
>
> Regards,
> Cheng
>
>
> Walter Cromer <[email protected]> 于2021年5月4日周二 下午4:02写道:
>
> I am glad to have helped a little bit.   Stick with it.  When it clicks
> and you start really moving forward I think you'll be pleased.
>
> Can you share the changes to the Makefile that you made?  I'm curious if
> it might help me.
>
> Right now I am reading the ADC every 2.7ms.  I'm reading three channels.
> I include the step id too and check that.  I am using switch-case to check
> the step and put the analog input into the right variable in my code.   It
> might be slighter faster with an if-elseif but I like the neatness of the
> switch-case and until it causes me timing problems, I'm sticking with it.
>
> I am also fairly certain the ADC can be read faster.  I have the ADC in
> one-shot mode and delay before I kick it off again.   I've also run this
> with no averaging, 4 averages, and 16 averages and it makes very little
> difference in timing for me.
>
> Walter
>
> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 11:33:51 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
> Hi Walter,
>
> Thank you so much for the reply. I think my setup is exactly the same as
> what you have (win10 and BBB wireless). That really motivated me to see
> somebody else successfully run the system with the same setup.
> I actually made some preliminary progress after two nights brooding and I
> am able to read out ADC data through rpmsg. Thanks a lot for your tips.
>
> I think the problem is still in the makefile and environment. As you
> mentioned, you are using makefile from PRUcookbook while I started off with
> TI's built-in makefile.  I believe there is a couple of slight difference
> between Debian system and TI SDK environment which turns out to be critical
> in compiling. I carefully compared the difference between two makefiles and
> created one which is close to the makefile in the PRUcookbook. That works
> like a charm.
>
> Next step I also want to explore precise timing and see how fast the adc
> can run. May I ask what is the speed you are reading out from ADC?
>
> Regards,
> Cheng
>
> 在2021年5月3日星期一 UTC-4 上午11:24:23<[email protected]> 写道:
>
> I just went through this pain and the people in this group were awesome
> help.
>
> I needed to read three analog inputs and it was a bear but once I got it,
> it has been going well.
>
> You don't mention the OS of your development platform or I may have missed
> it.  I'm on a Windows 10 box and using a BBB Wireless.  TI's entire
> learning system for this expects a Linux development platform so it's not
> as useful as it could be if you are on Windows.  I didn't want to go to the
> trouble of even bringing up a virtual Linux on my Windows box for this.  I
> did install Code Composer Studio (CCS) from TI, but gave up on it.  There's
> no easy way to transfer your compiled firmware to the BBB from within it
> according to TI.   So I just do everything on the Beagle and it meets my
> needs.
>
> I use the cloud9 IDE that ships with the BeagleBones for coding both the
> ARM and PRU code.  This environment compiles the ARM-side code and executes
> it just like any normal host (aka Linux, aka ARM) program just fine.
>  However, to compile the PRU code and load it I go over to a PUTTY session
> and use the make files from Mark Yoders' PRU Cookbook (
> https://markayoder.github.io/PRUCookbook/) .  My process is clunky but my
> programs aren't huge or extremely complex (yet) and this works for me.  I
> don't have and don't want to invest in a debug probe so debugging the PRU
> code can be a pain and slow.  The only option really is to use RPMsg almost
> like printf to send messages back at key points in the PRU code to let me
> know where it is executing and what's happening.  (Purists and more
> advanced developers are barfing and laughing at me right now I am sure.)
>
> I strongly encourage you to get the Technical Reference Manual for the TI
> ARM335x and specifically spend time with the Touchscreen Controller
> chapter.  If you need precise timing, you'll want to spend time in the
> Industrial Ethernet Peripheral chapter too.   These are powerful tools once
> you understand them.
>
> Also, get the PRU Optimizing C/C++ Compiler manual from TI and go through
> it.  One thing that really tripped me up was their implementation of the
> __far keyword.   GCC doesn't recognize that and I didn't understand what
> was going on at first.
>
> As Mark commented, some people encourage using remoteproc, some encourage
> using libpruio and some still use the uio. TI supports remoteproc and I
> expect them to be around so I went with remoteproc.  It may have its
> drawbacks but it is working just fine for me.  I can't comment on the other
> two as I have not tried them.   Also, I've found the TI E2E forum's
> moderators to be patient with me as a neophyte.   But the Google group's
> members do have wider experience.
>
> FYI - watch out for how TI puts some register settings that cross nibble
> or byte boundaries.  It can really bite you!  Take a look at the
> STEPCONFIGn registers implementation of averaging to see what I mean.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:46:03 PM UTC-4 lazarman wrote:
>
> <<<My first intention is to post in TI E2E support forums
> <https://e2e.ti.com/>, but it requires a company email to do so.
>
> Hello Cheng
>
> I want to Help you  but it appears my message is lost in translation
>
> What it sounds like to me  is TI pays these engineers $$ to answer
> questions and does not want to waste time and $$$ with users that dont
> follow their well written instructions *which say use SDK Yocto Linux on
> the ARM for this example.*
>
> For me I start with a working example with instructions and documentation
> then modifyit
>
> If I undertsand correctly you have *never* had an example working
>
> If you like breaking examples and working on projects that ONLY works from
> a unix script and hides all the details then this is the correct group to
> to ask questions (-:
>
> I suggest you try the example *you found*  following the intructions
> exactly.  if you cant or wont do that switch to DEbian/Cookbook
>
> But if you do the latter I suggest don't change things follow the
> instructions
>
> What is interesting is a Linux C application program should work correctly
> if it was coded generic especially when both Linux variants are for the
> same chip. Trying to figure out what is different between Linux variants to
> me is not productive its not my focus for you maybe it is.
>
> Perhaps the Linux in the SDK was configured differently which implies it
> handle PRU slightly different Im not surprised by this.
>
> Perhaps you can find what's different that may be a valid approach that
> works for you and maybe someone can help. I think Dennis gave you a good
> clue.
>
> I will watch the thread hopefully I can be of help should you choose to
> follow the path E2E and the SDK layed out for you
>
> Cheers
>
> On Friday, April 30, 2021, 07:52:09 PM CDT, Cheng Chen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Mark,
>
> Thanks for spending time for replying. I really appreciate it.
> I totally agree with you that one should spend time investigating first. I
> apologize if they are dumb questions, but I have stuck there for two weeks.
> I am more a circuit guy and just started picking up Beaglebone as a hobby
> and potential career expansion.
>
> My first intention is to post in TI E2E support forums
> <https://e2e.ti.com/>, but it requires a company email to do so. If this
> particular .org is not a good place for rookie questions, would you please
> advise some place for suitable for discussion?
>
> Regarding to the documents, are you referring to processor SDK Linux
> Software Developer's guide? If that is the one, I did follow its
> instructions, but maybe I missed something. I will go over it again. If
> that's not the one, which document are you referring to? I also went
> through PRUcookbook and Exploring BeagleBone by Derek Molly. Not a lot are
> mentioned regarding this topic.
>
> The code is built-in in the Beaglebone Black, this is one of the reasons I
> am confused why it cannot be compiled. One can also download freely from TI
> github (
> https://git.ti.com/cgit/pru-software-support-package/pru-software-support-package/
> ).
>
> Again thanks for the advice and suggestion. I am very glad that there is
> such a nice place that I can call for help and I hope after some practice I
> am also able to contribute here.
>
> Regards,
> Cheng
>
> 在2021年4月30日星期五 UTC-4 下午5:09:01<lazarman> 写道:
>
> Hello
>
> I know the code. It's all explained in the SDK documention. I also like
> these examples.
> Your asking questions about an SDK that's supported by Texas Instruments.
> You do understand this .org group you posted in may contain TI employees
> but is NOT TI support it's Beagle board Debian.
>
>  I think if you read the documents you will understand the answers
>
>  I'm sure you could compile this with some work the sdk instructions talk
> about This.
>
> Hypothetical question ❓
> If the instructions told you a virtual box build was not supported and not
> recommended would you use one anyway and then ask the person who told you
> not too do this why it doesn't work.
>
> I'm struggling to be nice in this reply.
>
>  I remember asking questions as a young engineer that clearly showed I
> made zero effort to research anything.
>
> Then one day I got some really critical replies about my skills.
>
> Do some reading then if stuck ask questions
>
> Or better yet follow what the sdk instructions suggest.
>
> If you found this code  on internet and don't have a TI account or are not
> eligible for ITAR restrictions to download the sdk  you have a big problem.
>
> I see you have a Gmail account
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 3:09 PM, Cheng Chen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am practicing PRU skills through some TI examples. I am playing with 
> PRU_ADC_onChip
>
> <https://git.ti.com/cgit/pru-software-support-package/pru-software-support-package/tree/examples/am335x/PRU_ADC_onChip?h=master>example
> and ran into a few questions. I wonder if you can help me with.
>
> The nice thing about this example is it has a README.txt with all the
> procedures. The idea is to use rpmsg to communicate between arm and pru
> module and read out ADC value.
> I am using a Beaglebone Black wireless.
> Here is the basic procedures.
>
> FILE STRUCTURE
> PRU_ADC
>   |
>   |--pru_adc_firmware.c firmware loaded into PRU0
>   |
>   |--pru_adc_userspace
>        |--pru_adc_userspace.c userspace code that interacts with PRU0
>
> BUILD FIRMWARE & USERSPACE CODE
> $ cd <PATH_TO_PRU_SW_SUPPORT_PACKAGE>/examples/am335x/PRU_ADC_onChip/
> $ make clean
> $ make
> $ cd pru_adc_userspace/
> $ make clean
> $ make
>
> My BBB wireless can compile pru code successfully because I installed
> PRU_CGT compiler. But it is unable to compile ARM code. I think that is
> because ARM_CCT cross-compiler toochain environment is missing, in another
> word, I need to install processor-sdk-am335x
>
> My first questions is can I install processor-sdk-am335x  into Debian
> system I currently have (Linux beaglebone 4.19.94-ti-r62 ) ? I am a little
> confused about the relationship between this SDK and Debian system. Why is
> the tutorial asking me to compile  pru_adc_userspace.c  in the Beaglebone.
> I thought it is supposed to be executed in a cross-compilation environment.
>
> I ended up installing processor-sdk-am335x on my linux desktop and
> compiled successfully. Then I copied the generated file back to BBB
> wireless. But when I tried to run the program, it shows the following
> error.
>
> Reading voltage at ADC Channel: 5
> /dev/rpmsg_pru30 could not be opened.
> Trying to initialize PRU using sysfs interface.
> ERROR: Could not open /dev/rpmsg_pru30
>
> Attached is the excerpt where the problem happened. Could anyone help me
> with some hints of what is going on here? Much appreciated.
>
>
> struct shared_struct message;
>
> /* use character device /dev/rpmsg_pru30 */
> char outputFilename[] = "/dev/rpmsg_pru30";
>
> /* test that /dev/rpmsg_pru30 exists */
> FILE *ofp;
> uint16_t returnedVoltage;
> ofp = fopen(outputFilename, "r");
>
> if (ofp == NULL) {
>
> printf("/dev/rpmsg_pru30 could not be opened. \n");
> printf("Trying to initialize PRU using sysfs interface.\n");
>
> FILE *sysfs_node;
> char firmware[] = "/sys/class/remoteproc/remoteproc1/firmware";
> char firmwareName[] = "PRU_ADC_onChip.out";
> sysfs_node = fopen(firmware, "r+");
> if (sysfs_node == NULL) {
> printf("cannot open firmware sysfs_node");
> return EXIT_FAILURE;
> }
> fwrite(&firmwareName, sizeof(uint8_t), sizeof(firmwareName),
> sysfs_node);
> fclose(sysfs_node);
>
> char pruState[] = "/sys/class/remoteproc/remoteproc1/state";
> char start[] = "start";
> sysfs_node = fopen(pruState, "r+");
> if (sysfs_node == NULL) {
> printf("cannot open state sysfs_node");
> return EXIT_FAILURE;
> }
> fwrite(&start, sizeof(uint8_t), sizeof(start), sysfs_node);
> fclose(sysfs_node);
>
> /* give RPMSG time to initialize */
> sleep(3);
>
> ofp = fopen(outputFilename, "r");
>
> if (ofp == NULL) {
> printf("ERROR: Could not open /dev/rpmsg_pru30\n");
> exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
> }
> }
>
>
>
>
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