Add a partition or another storage device. To mount once booted. Add a partition to your storage, so that you have a smallish boot image partition which will be read-only and a data partition which is read/write.
Add another storage device, so that you have read/write storage which is not just volatile RAM-disk. I think we used FTP or IDE to copy files to the R/W storage and add to the PATH. On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 10:51:37 UTC [email protected] wrote: > Well, we found a solution to just use the prebuilt image I attached > earlier but know it is only in read mode. I don't the username and the > password so I can't put my librairies to usr/lib... > What a shame that OS > > Le vendredi 5 mars 2021 à 08:32:14 UTC+1, Lucas SOLDA a écrit : > >> Thank you all for your answers, I will try to answer you in one post. >> >> *"You never told us if your product was using custom hardware or >> incorporating the beaglebone board."* >> If I use something else than QNX, I won't be able to port all the work >> made by my colleague. In fact, we are creating and developping our own >> electronic cards and we use QNX to programm them. We wanted to use the >> BeagleBone Black to realize some tests (test bench) on our products and by >> using QNX, we just should have ported our already existing programs. I'm >> not the person in charge of programming, builing, compiling QNX but I >> develop the product in which our cards are installed. This is why I don't >> understand everything about BSP, QNX, etc. >> >> *"As you ask, what is missing from the BSP that needs building?" : *We >> want to add the IsaGraf drivers in order to make the BeagleBone Black a >> target source in which we can send programms. I think, the BSp does need to >> be modified in that case , doesn't it ? >> >> We cannot upgrade our QNX development system because it would be too >> dangerous. We have only one licence and we don't want to destroy anything. >> Le vendredi 5 mars 2021 à 04:07:15 UTC+1, [email protected] a >> écrit : >> >>> Upgrading QNX Development System. >>> >>> From memory, it is more involved than downloading a SP file and running >>> it. >>> You have to unzip the download. >>> Find the old files. >>> Copy the old files to a backup name or folder. >>> Copy the new files from the zip archive, over the old files. >>> >>> On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 02:59:32 UTC [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> As you ask, what is missing from the BSP that needs building? If >>>> nothing, the next step is getting network setup to connect with SSH and >>>> IDE, possibly run network file system client to access files on your >>>> development PC. >>>> >>>> >>>> Re: File System Image (I cannot remember all the details) >>>> >>>> You use an IDE BSP project to build a bootable image including your >>>> application (started by boot script which also loads any needed drivers). >>>> This bootable image can be copied to a flash drive or accessed from a >>>> network file system (during development). >>>> The bootable image may be compressed read-only and expanded into a RAM >>>> backed 'disk' or expanded on the fly. >>>> >>>> During application development, the bootable image boots to "sh" >>>> command line. You can run any missed commands in the boot script. >>>> You use the IDE to connect the debugger over ethernet to QNX process >>>> and temporary download your debug version application. The IDE debugger >>>> can >>>> run, pause, single-step, etc. >>>> >>>> In the BSP project you edit a configuration which controls what is >>>> included in the boot image. You add or remove files from the prebuilt >>>> folder. You edit the start up script to load and configure drivers. >>>> >>>> In QNX drivers and file-systems are server processes/programs which >>>> respond to certain messages. Most QNX programs and applications are >>>> servers >>>> which wait on a message queue. >>>> QNX provides a POSIX wrapper server which converts system calls into >>>> send-wait-reply messages or convert signals into send-and-forget pulse >>>> messages. QNX also has time limited blocking on both send and receive >>>> messages. >>>> >>>> The QNX micro-kernel schedules process execution, allocates memory for >>>> messages, and transfers messages between processes. >>>> It is supported server programs to implement the OS functions. >>>> >>>> On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 00:22:31 UTC lazarman wrote: >>>> >>>>> The file system isn't the BSP. This part supplies all architecture >>>>> specific(ASP) functions like Cache,MMU and the board specific drivers for >>>>> on chip peripherals on all cores. >>>>> >>>>> If I understand Lucas correctly and you look at the zip file he >>>>> provided the support is limited as to drivers and he needs to recompile >>>>> that and add to it. >>>>> That's the only reason he can't use the binary. >>>>> >>>>> From your response it appears you didn't need to modify this. >>>>> >>>>> I would guess the x15 BSP is more inclusive and mature but doubt it >>>>> provided loading c6x DSP code or Cortex M4 code but it's not relevant >>>>> to >>>>> Lucas. >>>>> >>>>> Your experience with support below >>>>> >>>>> <<We did not have gold level support, questions often take days to be >>>>> answered <<and often direct you to documentation and someone who can >>>>> program it for <<you at a cost. It might be non paying users only had >>>>> community support >>>>> >>>>> To me it sounds like Lucas has the tin can support which is similar >>>>> to open source support. >>>>> >>>>> Ie post and pray😉 >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:34 PM, Robert Forsyth >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Old product used QNX 6, had long (6 months~1 year) trial licence for >>>>> 7.0, I think I was able to build the file-system image, but could not get >>>>> the driver for vector graphics processor to recognize the hardware, so >>>>> the >>>>> tiger demo did not work on AM5728 BB X15. (This is probably because GC320 >>>>> is a compositor, not vector-graphics like GC355.) >>>>> >>>>> We did not have gold level support, questions often take days to be >>>>> answered and often direct you to documentation and someone who can >>>>> program >>>>> it for you at a cost. It might be non paying users only had community >>>>> support, if you are trying to sell QNX, you need to make it easy as pie >>>>> to >>>>> switch from something free. >>>>> >>>>> QNX development works well, once hardware and software development is >>>>> setup, I would say it is easier to develop and debug communicating >>>>> multi-process applications on QNX than Windows, Linux or RTOS (QNX IPC >>>>> coincided with what I learned at uni); if you don't try to do it the >>>>> Linux >>>>> way. RTOS probably has the closest IPC ability to QNX, but way cruder; >>>>> QNX >>>>> has lovely variable length message passing. >>>>> Technical and library problems seemed often like Windows: you know >>>>> what you want to do, and you found a function which seems like it would >>>>> do >>>>> what you want, but the documentation says something like "setWombat( x ) >>>>> sets the wombat to x" and you find you have spent hours/days finding how >>>>> it >>>>> works. >>>>> Some drivers were based on Linux version, using QNX version >>>>> >>>>> Linux and RTOS are free, process isolation with separate processors is >>>>> cheapish, but takes up PCB space. I think Qt sold infotainment, QNX would >>>>> useful for process isolation on one (multi-core) processor, so you could >>>>> isolate the infotainment application from the air-bag monitor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 18:41, 'Mark Lazarewicz' via BeagleBoard < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Robert >>>>> >>>>> That's good to know I saw the x15 7.0 BSP >>>>> Where you able to rebuild BSP sources ? >>>>> And do they actually respond to support questions for educational >>>>> users? 😉 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks like most of their revenue comes from automobile infotainmen at >>>>> least the people hiring recently >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:35 PM, [email protected] >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> 7.0 worked on X15 except vector graphics >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 17:51:42 UTC lazarman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Page 15 of the pdf you sent we need that document >>>>> >>>>> . Please refer to the QNX SDP 6.6.0 BSPs guide, available as part of >>>>> the QNX Software Development Platform OS Core Components documentation >>>>> >>>>> I also need you to see if you can get the latest BSP referenced in my >>>>> previous post I think it was 7.0 >>>>> >>>>> I have uncovered at least 5 problems with your original posting its a >>>>> QXX documentation mismatch not you. I am concerned this stuff you started >>>>> with is very old and probally not supported by Blackberry >>>>> >>>>> You have to start simple and slowly and logically so be patient before >>>>> we start with 7.0 we need the document above >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 12:58:16 PM CST, 'Mark Lazarewicz' via >>>>> BeagleBoard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> These commands you entered are where? uboot? >>>>> >>>>> --> fatload mmc 0 0x81000000 prebuilt-bsp-ti-beaglebone.ifs >>>>> --> go 0x81000000 >>>>> >>>>> Why not automate these commands ? >>>>> >>>>> <<<if I compile the BSP without modifying anything, I should get the >>>>> prebuilt image, right ? >>>>> >>>>> In theory if you have a license BUT >>>>> some RTOS companies dont supply BSP source code unless you paid fees >>>>> >>>>> So do you need to modify BSP> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 09:03:22 AM CST, Lucas SOLDA < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark, >>>>> >>>>> I have a BeagleBone Black REV C. >>>>> There was nothing on the SD before. I did not touch to the EMC so I >>>>> think there is nothing inside. >>>>> My company has a QNX 6.5.0 SP1 licence and here is the list of the >>>>> tools installed on my computer: >>>>> >>>>> [image: 1.png] >>>>> [image: 2.jpg] >>>>> >>>>> First, I formated my SD card in FAT32, I made it active by using >>>>> diskpart and I copied the MLO and then the u-boot files. I took them from >>>>> here : >>>>> https://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.bsp/wiki/TiAm335Beaglebone >>>>> Bootloader modules# >>>>> <https://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.bsp/wiki/TiAm335Beaglebone#section-TiAm335Beaglebone-BootloaderModules> >>>>> --> >>>>> *"Click here >>>>> <http://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.mlo_and_u_boot_binaries_for_beag> >>>>> to >>>>> download the MLO and u-boot binaries for the new Beaglebone Black >>>>> platform. >>>>> "* >>>>> >>>>> After that, I downloaded the BSP files: QNX Neutrino 6.5.0 SP1# >>>>> <https://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.bsp/wiki/TiAm335Beaglebone#section-TiAm335Beaglebone-QNXNeutrino6.5.0SP1> >>>>> --> *Download *Project Downloads >>>>> <http://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.qnx_650_bsp_beaglebone_1_00_zip> >>>>> --> bsp-nto650-ti-beaglebone-sp1-trunk-201209071340.zip >>>>> <https://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/downloadFile/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.qnx_650_bsp_beaglebone_1_00_zip/frs36857?dl=1> >>>>> (I attach MLO, u-boot and BSP to this mail) >>>>> After extracting, I copied the file "prebuilt-bsp-ti-beaglebone.ifs" >>>>> in the "image" folder to my sdcard and I could succesfully launch QNX on >>>>> my >>>>> BBB by typing these commands : >>>>> --> fatload mmc 0 0x81000000 prebuilt-bsp-ti-beaglebone.ifs >>>>> --> go 0x81000000 >>>>> >>>>> That worked perfectly. >>>>> >>>>> When I try to compile the image by myself it gets complicated. >>>>> >>>>> if I compile the BSP without modifying anything, I should get the >>>>> prebuilt image, right ? >>>>> The problem is that, when I do that, I have the message I gave in the >>>>> first post and it says that I compile with QNX 6.5.0 and not with QNX >>>>> 6.5.0 >>>>> SP1 (whereas it is installed). >>>>> >>>>> *"I'm guessing you have no support forum or no ones replying at QNX?" *I >>>>> don't have support anymore and the only thing the told me is that I don't >>>>> use QNX 6.5.0 SP1 >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what to do anymore and the QNX SDP is not on my computer >>>>> so I can't use it whenever I want >>>>> >>>>> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 à 15:03:47 UTC+1, lazarman a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Let's start with some history about what rev board you have , what was >>>>> on SD before and whats in the emc now and details about tools you >>>>> installed to build BSP and QNX and exactly the BSP file's you are >>>>> compiling >>>>> as well as your goals. Are you trying to eventually modify the BSP source? >>>>> I'm guessing you have no support forum or no ones replying at QNX? >>>>> I need a clear picture of what you did exactly installing tools as in >>>>> did you install multiple times etc etc >>>>> >>>>> I'll look at the pdf you supplied and ponder whether it worthwhile and >>>>> practical to find my Beagleboard,Whites,blacks or even Pandaboard. >>>>> power supplies may be hard to match I've moved a lot. I guess a black >>>>> would be easy for me to find but may be in storage. >>>>> >>>>> Also maybe they will let me reeducate myself as I'm not working on a >>>>> commercial product and give me access otherwise it's harder to help. >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully I can get you on the right path >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:15 AM, Lucas SOLDA >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I can send you the files if you don't have an account. >>>>> >>>>> I use the MLO and u-boot files for beaglebone black from this link : >>>>> "Click *here >>>>> <http://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.mlo_and_u_boot_binaries_for_beag>* >>>>> to >>>>> download the MLO and u-boot binaries for the new Beaglebone Black >>>>> platform.". >>>>> >>>>> The fact you pointed is troubling. I don't understand why the BSP is >>>>> unchanged between beagleboard and BBB. >>>>> >>>>> "*Perhaps if you disassemble the binary and look at the bone memory >>>>> map and the linker map and the u boot load address for QNX there's a >>>>> mismatch * >>>>> *do you have access to BSP users guide? " * >>>>> >>>>> I will try to do that but I'm not an expert. I have access to the user >>>>> guide yes... >>>>> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 à 08:09:38 UTC+1, Lucas SOLDA a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> @lazarman, in fact I'm not a student and I have a company account with >>>>> a QNX 6.5.0 SP1 licence. I have also already registered to the" QNX >>>>> Software Development Platform 6.5.x (registration)" link that you gave >>>>> me. >>>>> The problem is not the fact that I can't download and install the SDP but >>>>> the fact that when I build the image thanks to the BSP, I don't have the >>>>> same result as the prebuilt image >>>>> >>>>> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 à 00:24:34 UTC+1, lazarman a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi Robert I think Lucas is saying he's only trying to build the BSP >>>>> not QNX. >>>>> >>>>> I did this 10 years ago and I also had the latest BSP guides I tried >>>>> getting these and you need a customer login. It says it's free for >>>>> education but again BlackBerry bought this. >>>>> >>>>> What's funny is this link below takes you to another page which says >>>>> we support these processors. It also says you should lose the latest >>>>> version's >>>>> >>>>> QNX SDP 7.0 BSP for Texas Instruments AM335x (Beaglebone Black) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://blackberry.qnx.com/en/support/qnx-board-support-packages >>>>> >>>>> Clicking on the above link next to the BSP you see another page >>>>> saying >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The QNX Software Center enables you to download and manage QNX >>>>> Software Development Platform version 7.x and related products. PDF >>>>> documentation and Licensing information relating to QNX SDP 7 and related >>>>> products can also be found here. *IMPORTANT: SDP 7.x licenses are >>>>> initially delivered within the myQNX License Manager >>>>> <https://www.qnx.com/account/dashboard/%22> and MUST be assigned to users >>>>> via the license manager in order for them to access the product.* >>>>> >>>>> And no code just a login. >>>>> >>>>> That BSP Lucas references is over 6 year's old. >>>>> >>>>> Even 10 year's ago you needed a valid company domain and email address >>>>> for QNX I know GreenHills and maybe WindRiver as well wouldn't even >>>>> reply >>>>> to a free email domain and definitely won't give you a 30 day level >>>>> license key that the license manager needed >>>>> >>>>> Lucas is this for education 😉?? 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