>
> *Someday, someone will probably come up with visual system that's general,
> open source and amenable to maintaining in git---but that day hasn't
> arrived yet.*
>

I think that right now, probably the toold that are closest are the better
UML apps out there. Rational Rose, and Microsoft Visio. Where you diagram
your program flow, and the app builds your app skeleton for you. Functions,
classes, and all it can based on the data you've given it. For me
personally though, this is not my own style of coding. I prefer to write
small bits at a time and test as I go. This way, I do not spend large
amounts of time debugging code . . .

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Przemek Klosowski <
[email protected]> wrote:

> These graphical or visual programming languages you denigrate really do
>>> help scientists, engineers, and other "domain experts" who aren't, and
>>> don't want to become, "programmers" implement an idea for which there is
>>> not, and will never be until the idea is proven sound, a budget for "hiring
>>> real programmers".
>>>
>>
> In principle, yes, they are useful and enabling. In practice, however,
> they have been underwhelming, and I can think of several reasons:
>
>    - fragmentation: they usually are designed for some domain-specific
>    programming (e.g. LabView for data acquisition, GNUradio for signal
>    processing, Simulink for control systems, SGI AVS/Explorer for data
>    flow/processing, etc). This, however, means that their audience is limited
>    to that particular domain.
>    - closeness: most of graphical programming systems are commercial and
>    closely held by their owners
>    - lack of scaling: easy tasks are very easy,  but as the program size
>    grows, they become unmanageable. It's difficult to determine whether two
>    visualized data flow graphs are equivalent: the program representation and
>    semantics are mixed up. My favorite dis of graphical programming:
>
>
>    - Finally, we can have spaghetti code that looks like spaghetti!
>
> Someday, someone will probably come up with visual system that's general,
> open source and amenable to maintaining in git---but that day hasn't
> arrived yet.
>
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