On Friday 26 August 2005 11:00, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:
> Hi Kern,
>
> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >Could you tell me where?
> >
> >It is a rather obvious concept, but I haven't seen anything really quite
> > the same.  I'd be interested to see what similar "projects" are doing.
>
> i thought of redhat for example, although this is something different,
> as they keep one version
> free of charge.
>
> >>actually i cant see any difference between this licence concept
> >>which asks you to buy a licence if you want to make profit with the
> >>software and "classical" commercial software which also allows private
> >>users to use their software for free...
> >
> >Well, I started what I consider a classical commercial software company,
> > and what I am proposing is *totally* different, so I don't understand
> > your statement.
>
> actually i dont really know what _your_ proposal is. i just visited the
> webpage you mentioned
> in your mail.
>
> >>i have to admit i have not really thought it through, but what i think
> >>enabled
> >>the great success of open source was software like linux and mysql which
> >>was from
> >>the beginning also free for commercial ideas...
> >
> >Although BSD and other licenses are free for commercial users, I wouldn't
> > say that is the case for GPL.  For a commercial software company as
> > opposed to a service company, GPL is somewhat of a nightmare.  It is true
> > they don't have to pay for it, but it comes at a heavy price -- all your
> > software that "touches" or "uses" GPL software must be GPL or otherwise
> > Open Software as well.
>
> thats right. if you want to use the software itself to make new software
> and you want to make money
> by seeling it, GPL is indeed a nightmare. perhaps i should read what
> your idea is, could you provide
> a place for me to find it ? as a guess, are you going to do something
> like mysql ? you can use mysql
> for free even commercially, but if you want to use the software in your
> software, you have to pay for it ?

It sounds like you have already read my idea.  It is at:

  www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html


The exact details of the pricing structure are still open, and there are a 
good number of points to clarify (several readers have sent ideas that should 
be well defined -- e.g. what is an upgrade, ...), but I think the general 
concept is there.

-- 
Best regards,

Kern

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