Paul,

Vacation took me away for 3 weeks. I'm back now for
SOAP over SIP..

I think it will be a leg up for axis2 to have support
for the SIP transport independently. SIP messaging is
very close to WS-Eventing in which a SIP INVITE can
yield several messages going back to the client. 

Its all messaging really ;) but we should decide what
approach we should take. Do you want to move to
axis-dev?

Samir


--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Samir
> 
> One more thing we should look at. It seems like the
> HTTP code we use
> for non-blocking (HTTPCore) already also has some
> limited support for
> SIP!
> 
> This would mean we would have to code directly to
> that API (i.e. we
> wouldn't use the SIP Servlet model). However, this
> seems to me to have
> two key benefits.
> 
> 1) We could probably start from the NHTTP transport
> and therefore
> re-use a lot of code
> 2) We'd end up with a non-blocking SIP transport
> which is a "good
> thing" (more efficient)
> 
> Also the folks over at HTTPCore are incredibly
> helpful.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2007 4:58 AM, Demetris G
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Likewise Paul - thanks for the pointer.
> >
> >
> > Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > Good point!
> > >
> > > SIP is basically the standard for doing Voice
> Over Internet Protocol
> > > (VOIP) that is used by systems like Vonage,
> Asterisk, etc to provide
> > > phoning on the internet.
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On Dec 22, 2007 8:29 AM, Demetris G
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Echoing Paul's "I didn't know anything about
> coding SIP in Java" and further
> > >> seeing these terms flying around this list for
> a long time now, wouldn't
> > >> be so
> > >> much nicer for the rest of us who are willing
> to learn, for whoever is
> > >> asking
> > >> a Q out of the list to also spend 3.5 secs to
> write down a definition of the
> > >> term they are requesting help with? I hear
> POJO, MOJO, GOJO, blah blah
> > >> and MTOM and this and that and now SIP ... oh
> sure, everything is just
> > >> a google away but putting it in the context of
> the list educates all of
> > >> us. Just
> > >> a friendly suggestion ...
> > >>
> > >> SIP - away my friends ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Samir
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP
> in Java :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the
> SIPServlet spec
> > >>> (assuming that it has a valid license), and we
> also need a client SIP
> > >>> stack too.
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems like this is what we need:
> https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
> > >>> I can't find out what license that is under.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also I found an interesting alternative to the
> SIP Servlet which is the JIPlet:
> > >>>
> http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html
> > >>>
> > >>> However, I'm not sure its really worth using
> JIPlet over the SIP
> > >>> servlet. What are your thoughts?
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul
> > >>>
> > >>> PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus
> the Commons HTTPClient.
> > >>> However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based
> on an Apache library
> > >>> called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking
> IO version of HTTP.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Paul,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you
> mean we
> > >>>> need some reference implementation of the
> sipservlet
> > >>>> specification? can you tell me what it is for
> http so
> > >>>> then i can understand what we are looking for
> here.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Samir
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Samir
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The usual first step is to identify a
> library that
> > >>>>> can be used to
> > >>>>> provide the base SIP function. Also the
> library
> > >>>>> needs to be compatible
> > >>>>> with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open
> Source
> > >>>>> and also not GPL
> > >>>>> (but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find
> one under
> > >>>>> the Apache or BSD
> > >>>>> license that is best.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Paul
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
> > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Paul,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'll be happy to team up with you on this.
> If you
> > >>>>>> could lay out for me what is involved that
> will be
> > >>>>>> great. We could have something based off of
> the
> > >>>>>> sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can
> also
> > >>>>>> research the existing transports as part of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> synapse.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Samir
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Samir
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>> Axis2.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> However, if you
> > >>>>>>> would be willing to help write one we
> would be
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>> very
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> happy to help.
> > >>>>>>> From my knowledge of SIP it would make a
> good
> > >>>>>>> transport and has some
> > >>>>>>> benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how
> Axis2
> > >>>>>>> transports are
> 
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