Hi Stefan, all, Thank you for your review.
We have updated the files accordingly and marked Stefan's approval on the AUTH48 status page for this document. Upon careful review, please contact us with any further updates or with your approval of the document in its current form. We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page for this document prior to moving forward in the publication process. Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as we do not make changes once it has been published as an RFC. The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9932 — FILES (please refresh): — The updated files have been posted here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.pdf https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.xml Diff files showing changes between the last and current version: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-lastdiff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side) Diff files showing all changes made during AUTH48: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-auth48diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side) Diff files showing all changes: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-rfcdiff.html (side by side) All best, Kaelin Foody RFC Production Center > On Apr 2, 2026, at 4:17 AM, Stefan Halen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Greetings, > > Thank you for the review and editorial changes. > > 1. To remove the ambiguity in that sentence, please update the text as > follows: > > OLD: > Public key pinning associates one or more unique public keys with each > federation endpoint, which are stored in the federation metadata. > > NEW: > Public key pinning associates one or more public key pins with each > federation endpoint. These pins are published in the federation metadata. > > 2. The update to the sentence in Section 6.3 is correct. No objection. > > 3a) Yes, please update reference [eIDAS] to point to the consolidated version: > https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A02014R0910-20241018 > > 3b) No objection to the updated reference title. > > With the above resolved, I approve the document for publication. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > From: Kaelin Foody <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2026 20:11 > To: Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) <[email protected]> > Cc: Stefan Halen <[email protected]>; > [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] > <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9932 <draft-halen-fedae-03> for your review > [You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn why this > is important athttps://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > Greetings authors, all, > > We have reviewed the changes made to this document. > > Please see <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-lastrfcdiff.html> for > the editorial changes made on our end. (Note that this file only shows the > changes made between the last and current version of this document; > additional diff files showing all changes are posted at the end of this > email.) > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve the following > questions regarding this newest version, which are also in the source file. > > Please see the first email in this thread for additional AUTH48 instructions, > if needed. > > 1) <!-- [rfced] In the text below, does "which are stored" refer to "each > federation endpoint"? If so, may we update "are" to "is" as follows (as > "each" is grammatically singular)? > > Original: > > Public key pinning associates one or more unique public keys with each > federation endpoint, which are stored in the federation metadata. > > Perhaps: > > Public key pinning associates one or more unique public keys with each > federation endpoint, which is stored in the federation metadata. > --> > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Section 6.3: FYI, we have updated the sentence below as > follows. Please review. > > Original: > > Line breaks in the example of the <tt>issuers</tt> claim are for readability > only. > > Current: > > Line breaks in the <tt>issuers</tt> claim example are for readability only. > --> > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] We have a few questions regarding the reference [eIDAS]: > > a) This reference appears to have a more up to date and consolidated > version. Would you like to reference this updated version instead? > > This newest version is available here: > https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A02014R0910-20241018. > > b) FYI, please note that we have updated the title of this reference to match > the title of the document at the provided link. Please review and let us know > any objections. > --> > > We look forward to hearing from you. > > > — FILES (please refresh): — > > The updated files have been posted here: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.pdf > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.xml > > Diff files showing changes between the last and current version: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-lastdiff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side) > > Diff files showing all changes made during AUTH48: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-auth48diff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side) > > Diff files showing all changes: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-diff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-rfcdiff.html (side by side) > > The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9932 > > > All the best, > > Kaelin Foody > RFC Production Center > > > On Feb 17, 2026, at 5:17 PM, Kaelin Foody <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eliot, > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > > We can keep this document in AUTH48 state (with the same assigned RFC > > number) while you and the authors complete the review. > > > > In the meantime, we will not make any additional changes or updates to this > > document until we receive your approval. > > > > We have also noted this on the AUTH48 status page for this document: > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9932 > > > > You may find the most up-to-date files below (note that they do not contain > > these most recent author updates): > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.xml > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.txt > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.pdf > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.html > > > > Thanks and all best, > > > > Kaelin Foody > > RFC Production Center > > > > > >> On Feb 17, 2026, at 1:12 PM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Kaelin, > >> I don't think any of this is fatal, but it does require some work, and I > >> don't think it makes sense to use RPC resources while the authors and I go > >> through the details. What I expect is that we will base our work on the > >> work that you have done, so for the time being, my request is to HOLD the > >> RFC # for the next several weeks. If I find that we cannot resolve issues > >> by then, I will inform you. > >> I would like to confirm though that you have released the draft for now, > >> so that we can continue work. I will resubmit to the RPC in due course. > >> Does that work? > >> Eliot > >> On 17.02.2026 18:33, Kaelin Foody wrote: > >>> Hi Eliot, > >>> > >>> Thanks for your message. > >>> > >>> We believe you mean that this document is not ready for publication (and > >>> that it may or may not be re-approved in the future). If so, we will > >>> remove it from our queue and will reassign the RFC number. > >>> > >>> Let us know if this is suitable and if you need anything else on our end. > >>> > >>> All best, > >>> > >>> Kaelin Foody > >>> RFC Production Center > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Feb 16, 2026, at 3:30 AM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Authors, > >>>> > >>>> Given the level of changers proposed, I conclude that the specification > >>>> contained within this draft RFC is not stable. Therefore, I ask that the > >>>> RPC return control of this draft to the ISE for further consideration. I > >>>> appreciate that these changes may have come about based on operational > >>>> experience. I have substantial concerns over some of them, and some > >>>> changes are gratuitous in nature. I appreciate the RPC's efforts to > >>>> ready this document for publication, but the reader will not be well > >>>> served without further technical review. We will attempt to continue > >>>> changes from the draft RFC as best we can. > >>>> > >>>> Authors are requested to make no changes until you receive further > >>>> instructions from me. > >>>> > >>>> Eliot > >>>> > >>>> On 16.02.2026 02:09, Stefan Halen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> > >>>>> Please find attached an updated XML for RFC 9932. > >>>>> > >>>>> After a comprehensive review, I identified several areas where the > >>>>> technical logic required further precision to ensure secure > >>>>> implementation. This version includes substantive clarifications > >>>>> regarding: > >>>>> > >>>>> • Intermediary Behavior: Strengthening the security requirements for > >>>>> identity propagation when TLS is terminated before the application. > >>>>> • Trust Resolution: Clarifying how entity_id resolution relies on pin > >>>>> uniqueness in metadata. > >>>>> • Client Logic: Streamlining the connection and validation steps for > >>>>> better internal consistency. > >>>>> > >>>>> My co-author is cc'd on this message and is in agreement with these > >>>>> final technical refinements. > >>>>> > >>>>> I recognize that these updates are submitted late in the process. I > >>>>> believe they significantly improve the document's quality and > >>>>> robustness for implementers. Thank you for accommodating them. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> Stefan Halén > >>>>> From: Kaelin Foody <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2026 18:39 > >>>>> To: Stefan Halen <[email protected]> > >>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; > >>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] > >>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] > >>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9932 <draft-halen-fedae-03> for your > >>>>> review > >>>>> Hi Stefan, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you for your quick and thorough response. We have updated the > >>>>> document accordingly. > >>>>> > >>>>> Note that we have updated <tt> usage in the XML file per your request > >>>>> below. Please review our updates to ensure that they are accurate. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> 6. Regarding the mixed use of quotation marks and <tt> tags in > >>>>>> Sections 6.1 and 6.1.1: > >>>>>> Please update all "Example" list items in these sections to use <tt> > >>>>>> consistently. For values that are JSON strings, please include the > >>>>>> quotation marks inside the <tt> element. For values that are JSON > >>>>>> integers and regular expressions, please use <tt> without quotation > >>>>>> marks. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Upon careful review, please contact us with any further updates or with > >>>>> your approval of the document in its current form. > >>>>> > >>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on this document's > >>>>> AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward in the publication process. > >>>>> > >>>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here: > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9932 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> — FILES (please refresh): — > >>>>> > >>>>> The updated files have been posted here: > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.txt > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.pdf > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.html > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932.xml > >>>>> > >>>>> Diff files showing changes made during AUTH48: > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-auth48diff.html > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by > >>>>> side) > >>>>> > >>>>> Diff files showing all changes: > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-diff.html > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9932-rfcdiff.html (side by side) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you, > >>>>> > >>>>> Kaelin Foody > >>>>> RFC Production Center > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 8, 2026, at 4:19 PM, Stefan Halen > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you for the thorough review and helpful suggestions. Below are > >>>>>> the proposed responses to the [rfced] questions. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Responses to RFC Editor questions > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. References: Please alphabetize the references, alphanumeric order > >>>>>> by citation tag. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2. Keywords: Please add the following keywords for search indexing: > >>>>>> machine-to-machine, trust framework, mutual TLS, mTLS, public key > >>>>>> pinning, SPKI, federation metadata, federation > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3. Section reference for “exp”: Yes, please update the reference from > >>>>>> Section 6.4 to 6.1. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 4. “federation members entities”: Yes. Please update to “entities of > >>>>>> federation members”. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 5. Sentence rewording (base_uri, pins, issuers): Yes. Please apply the > >>>>>> proposed rewording. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 6. Regarding the mixed use of quotation marks and <tt> tags in > >>>>>> Sections 6.1 and 6.1.1: > >>>>>> Please update all "Example" list items in these sections to use <tt> > >>>>>> consistently. For values that are JSON strings, please include the > >>>>>> quotation marks inside the <tt> element. For values that are JSON > >>>>>> integers and regular expressions, please use <tt> without quotation > >>>>>> marks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Examples: > >>>>>> - Strings: Example: <tt>"1.0.0"</tt> > >>>>>> - Integers: Example: <tt>1755514949</tt> > >>>>>> - Patterns: Pattern: <tt>^[a-z0-9]{1,64}$</tt> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 7. Regarding the "PEM-encoded" comment, please proceed with the > >>>>>> updates for both instances: > >>>>>> - Update to: "For each issuer, the issuer's root CA certificate MUST > >>>>>> be included in the x509certificate property and be encoded by > >>>>>> Privacy-Enhanced Mail (PEM)." > >>>>>> - Update to: "Syntax: Each object contains a PEM-encoded issuer > >>>>>> certificate." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8. Section 7.3 and 7.4 sentence adjustments: Acknowledged and approved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 9. References: > >>>>>> a) [Moa]: The updated date (6 October 2025) is fine. > >>>>>> b) [SkolverketMATF]: Please update the date to 4 September 2025 (the > >>>>>> XML currently shows 4 September 2023). This should match commit > >>>>>> f8c2e93. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 10. Notes and <aside>: Please move the note in Section 6.2 about JSON > >>>>>> Schema folding per RFC 8792 (the paragraph that begins “Note: The > >>>>>> schema in Appendix A is folded …”) into an <aside> element. No other > >>>>>> notes need to be moved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 11. Abbreviations and Terminology: > >>>>>> a) MATF expansion: Please update to “Mutually Authenticating TLS in > >>>>>> Federations (MATF)”. > >>>>>> b) FO: Please replace “FO” with “federation operator” in Section 8.1 > >>>>>> (and do not introduce a new abbreviation). > >>>>>> c) RESTful: Please apply the proposed definition addition. > >>>>>> d) “JWK Set” updates: Acknowledged and approved. > >>>>>> e) Other added expansions (SAML, JWS, CAs, SCIM): Reviewed and > >>>>>> approved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 12. Inclusive language: > >>>>>> Please update the following terms in the identified instances: > >>>>>> a) “man-in-the-middle” to “on-path attacks” > >>>>>> b) “native” to “built-in” > >>>>>> c) Please replace “traditional certificate revocation mechanisms” with > >>>>>> “standard PKI-based certificate revocation mechanisms”. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Requested text changes (OLD/NEW) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Section 6.1, cache_ttl > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>> Specifies the duration in seconds for caching downloaded federation > >>>>>> metadata, allowing for independent caching outside of specific HTTP > >>>>>> configurations; this is particularly useful when the communication > >>>>>> mechanism isn't HTTP based. In the event of a metadata publication > >>>>>> outage, members can rely on cached metadata until it expires, as > >>>>>> indicated by the exp claim in the JWS payload, defined in Section 6.4. > >>>>>> Once expired, metadata MUST no longer be trusted. If omitted, a > >>>>>> mechanism to refresh metadata MUST still exist to ensure the metadata > >>>>>> remains valid. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>> Specifies the duration in seconds for caching downloaded federation > >>>>>> metadata, allowing for independent caching outside of specific HTTP > >>>>>> configurations. This is particularly useful when the communication > >>>>>> mechanism is not based on HTTP. In the event of a metadata publication > >>>>>> outage, members can rely on cached metadata until it expires, as > >>>>>> indicated by the exp claim in the JWS payload, defined in Section 6.1. > >>>>>> Once expired, metadata MUST no longer be trusted. If omitted, a > >>>>>> mechanism to refresh metadata MUST still exist to ensure the metadata > >>>>>> remains valid. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Section 6.3, Example Metadata > >>>>>> Please list iat before exp for consistency with Section 6.1, and > >>>>>> ensure the example values satisfy iat < exp: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>> "exp": 1755514949, > >>>>>> "iat": 1756119888, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>> "iat": 1755514949, > >>>>>> "exp": 1756119888, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Approval for publication > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Publication approval will be provided after the updated files are > >>>>>> posted and reviewed. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Stefan Halén > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2026 22:34 > >>>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Stefan Halen > >>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; > >>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; > >>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]> > >>>>>> Subject: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9932 <draft-halen-fedae-03> for your review > >>>>>> *****IMPORTANT***** > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Updated 2026/02/06 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> RFC Author(s): > >>>>>> -------------- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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