Hiya,

I've previously pinged people off list but just now sent a mail to
the WG list asking the authors to respond. We'll see if that works
better;-)

S

On 30/03/2026 16:52, Sarah Tarrant wrote:
Hi Markus and all,

Markus - Thank you for your reply. While the current xml2rfc cannot make the 
reference look like how you requested, we were able to maneuver the reference 
to include both URLs.

All - We are awaiting answers to the questions that were sent out at the 
beginning of AUTH48:

1) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We updated the abbreviated title as follows. The
abbreviated title appears in the center of the running header at the top
of each page in the PDF output.

Original:
NTRUPrime+X25519 for SSH

Updated:
NTRUPrime and X25519 for SSH
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2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->


3) <!-- [rfced] In the text below, may we either update to use complete titles 
of
the RFCs or use just the citation? Note that other instances in the
document use just the citation, as does similar text in RFC 8731.

a) From Introduction

Original:
   Secure Shell (SSH) [RFC4251] is a secure remote login protocol.  The
   key exchange protocol described in SSH transport layer [RFC4253]
   supports an extensible set of methods.  Elliptic Curve Algorithms in
   SSH [RFC5656] defines how elliptic curves are integrated into the
   extensible SSH framework, and SSH KEX Using Curve25519 and Curve448
   [RFC8731] adds curve25519-sha256 to support the pre-quantum elliptic-
   curve Diffie-Hellman X25519 function [RFC7748].
   ...
   This document was derived from SSH KEX Using Curve25519 and Curve448
   [RFC8731].

Perhaps A (full titles):
   "The Secure Shell (SSH) Protocol Architecture" [RFC4251] is a secure
   remote login protocol.  The key exchange protocol described in "The
   Secure Shell (SSH) Transport Layer Protocol" [RFC4253] supports an
   extensible set of methods.  The "Elliptic Curve Algorithm Integration
   in the Secure Shell Transport Layer" [RFC5656] defines how elliptic
   curves are integrated into the extensible SSH framework, and the
   "Secure Shell (SSH) Key Exchange Method Using Curve25519 and Curve448"
   [RFC8731] adds curve25519-sha256 to support the pre-quantum Elliptic
   Curve Diffie-Hellman (ECDH) X25519 function [RFC7748].
   ...
   This document was derived from "Secure Shell (SSH) Key Exchange Method
   Using Curve25519 and Curve448" [RFC8731].

Perhaps B (just citations):
   Secure Shell (SSH) [RFC4251] is a secure remote login protocol.  The
   key exchange protocol described in [RFC4253]
   supports an extensible set of methods.
   [RFC5656] defines how elliptic curves are integrated into the
   extensible SSH framework, and
   [RFC8731] adds curve25519-sha256 to support the pre-quantum Elliptic
   Curve Diffie-Hellman (ECDH) X25519 function [RFC7748].
   ...
   This document was derived from [RFC8731].


b) From Section 3

Original:
   For consistency with ECC in SSH [RFC5656], which define the packet
   syntax, we use those names in the rest of this document.

Perhaps A (full titles):
   For consistency with "Elliptic Curve Algorithm Integration in the
   Secure Shell Transport Layer" [RFC5656], which defines the packet
   syntax, we use those names in the rest of this document.

Perhaps B (just citations):
   For consistency with [RFC5656], which defines the packet
   syntax, we use those names in the rest of this document.


c) From Security Considerations

Original:
   The security considerations of the SSH Protocol [RFC4251], ECC for
   SSH [RFC5656], Elliptic Curves for Security [RFC7748], and SSH KEX
   Using Curve25519 and Curve448 [RFC8731] are inherited.

Perhaps A (full titles):
   The security considerations of the following are inherited:

   *  "The Secure Shell (SSH) Protocol Architecture" [RFC4251]

   *  "Elliptic Curve Algorithm Integration in the Secure Shell Transport 
Layer" [RFC5656]

   *  "Elliptic Curves for Security" [RFC7748]

   *  "Secure Shell (SSH) Key Exchange Method Using Curve25519 and Curve448" 
[RFC8731]

Perhaps B (just citations):
   The security considerations in [RFC4251], [RFC5656], [RFC7748], and
   [RFC8731] are inherited.
-->


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- "security considerations of Curve25519-sha256 [RFC8731]"
- "is used bignum-encoded"
- "hash-processing time side-channel"

Original:
   As discussed in the security considerations of Curve25519-sha256
   [RFC8731], the X25519 shared secret K is used bignum-encoded in that
   document, and this raise a potential for a hash-processing time side-
   channel that could leak one bit of the secret due to different length
   of the bignum sign pad.

Perhaps:
   As discussed in the security considerations of
   [RFC8731], the X25519 shared secret K is bignum-encoded in that
   document, and this raises the potential for a side-
   channel attack that could leak one bit of the secret due to the different 
length
   of the bignum sign pad.
-->


5) <!-- [rfced] Artwork/sourcecode

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https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types. If this list
does not contain an applicable type, then feel free to suggest a new one.
Also, it is acceptable to leave the "type" attribute not set.

b) The lines in the figure in Appendix A are too long for the TXT output. For
sourcecode, the maximum line length is 69 characters (the current is 71
characters). Please let us know how to update to fit this requirement.
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Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


Sincerely,
Sarah Tarrant
RFC Production Center

On Mar 30, 2026, at 10:37 AM, Markus Friedl <[email protected]> wrote:



Am 09.03.2026 um 16:00 schrieb Sarah Tarrant <[email protected]>:

New:
   [NTRUPrimePQCS]
              Bernstein, D.J., Brumley, B. B., Chen,, M.,
              Chuengsatiansup, C., Lange, T., Marotzke, A., Peng, B.,
              Tuveri, N., Vredendaal, C. V., and B. Yang, "NTRU Prime:
              round 3", DOI 10.5281/zenodo.13983972, October 2020,
              <https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13983972>.
              <https://ntruprime.cr.yp.to/nist/ntruprime-20201007.pdf>.

Please let us know if this is acceptable.

Thanks, I think the there should be no full-stop after the first URL, and the
ordering should be like in the earlier email:

NEW:
[NTRUPrimePQCS]
Bernstein, D.J., Brumley, B. B., Chen, M., Chuengsatiansup, C.,
Lange, T., Marotzke, A., Peng, B., Tuveri, N., Vredendaal, C. V., and
B. Yang, "NTRU Prime: round 3", October 2020,
<https://ntruprime.cr.yp.to/nist/ntruprime-20201007.pdf>, DOI
10.5281/zenodo.13983972, <https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13983972>.



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