Hello Sarah,

Thanks for the intake questions.

Please find our answers inline below.

Best,
/Marco

________________________________
From: Sarah Tarrant <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2026 8:45 PM
To: Marco Tiloca <[email protected]>; Francesca Palombini 
<[email protected]>
Cc: Rikard Höglund <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
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Subject: Document intake questions about 
<draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-oscore-21>

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1) As there may have been multiple updates made to the document during Last 
Call,
please review the current version of the document:

* Is the text in the Abstract still accurate?
* Are the Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments
sections current?

==>MT

The text in the Abstract is accurate.

The content of the sections "Acknowledgments" and "Authors' Addresses" is 
accurate.

<==


2) Please share any style information that could help us with editing your
document. For example:

* Is your document's format or its terminology based on another document,
WG style guide, etc.? If so, please provide a pointer to that information
(e.g., "This document's terminology should match DNS terminology in
RFC 9499." or "This document uses the style info at
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* Is there a general pattern of capitalization or formatting of terms that
editors can follow (e.g., "Field names should have initial capitalization."
or  "Parameter names should be in double quotes." or "<tt/> should be used
for token names." etc.)?

==>MT

We can think of the following points.

- Format: there is a conceptual correspondence between some sections of this 
document and some sections of RFC 9594, of which this document is an 
application profile.

- Terminology: see Section 1.1. This document largely uses the terminology from 
RFC 9200, RFC 9594, RFC 7252, RFC 8613, and draft-ietf-core-oscore-groupcomm 
(also in the same cluster C564). As noted in Section 1.1, the term "monitor" 
used in this document is equivalent to (but intentionally different from) the 
term "silent server" used in draft-ietf-core-oscore-groupcomm.

- "nonce" vs. "challenge": during IESG evaluation, an inaccurate use of the 
words "nonce" and "challenge" emerged and was fixed in this document, which now 
uses the two words appropriately and consistently. As a warning, this contrasts 
with some inaccurate uses of those words in RFC 9594, where **some** sentences 
should have used "challenge" instead of "nonce" or of "dedicated nonce".

- Capitalization generally follows the document from which it is imported (if 
imported). See, for example, terms imported from RFC 8613, RFC9594, and 
draft-ietf-core-oscore-groupcomm. Some terms defined in RFC 9200 use a 
different capitalization in RFC 9594, e.g., "Client" and "Resource Server" are 
used in their uppercase version. In such cases, we think that it is more 
appropriate for this document to use the same capitalization used in RFC 9594.

- Some words are surrounded by single quotes (i.e., 'foo'), when referring to a 
parameter within a message. E.g., see 'control_uri', 'key', 'ms', etc. when 
referring to such parameters within exchanged messages. This is consistent with 
RFC 9594.

- Letters in hexadecimal notation are lowercase.

<==


3) Please carefully review the entries and their URLs in the
References section with the following in mind. Note that we will
update as follows unless we hear otherwise at this time:

* References to obsoleted RFCs will be updated to point to the current
RFC on the topic in accordance with Section 4.8.6 of RFC 7322
(RFC Style Guide).

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==>MT

There are two references to obsoleted RFCs, i.e., RFC 5246 and RFC 6347. This 
is intentional: Section 6.1.1 of this document describes specific behavior for 
the case where DTLS 1.2 (RFC 6347) or TLS 1.2 (RFC 5246) is used. This is 
admitted by the DTLS profile of ACE (RFC 9202) and its corresponding update 
(RFC 9430). Therefore, please keep the references to RFC 5246 and RFC 6347, as 
well as the references to RFC 8446 and RFC 9147 obsoleting those.

The current reference [NIST-800-56A] from another organization should already 
be up-to-date. As announced at [0], NIST has recently decided to produce a new 
version of that specification, but the timeline for such an update is not clear 
to us.

[0] 
https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2026/01/nist-update-special-publication-800-56a-and-revise-800-56c

<==


4) Is there any text that requires special handling? For example:
* Are there any sections that were contentious when the document was drafted?
* Are any sections that need to be removed before publication marked as such
(e.g., Implementation Status sections (per RFC 7942)).
* Are there any instances of repeated text/sections that should be edited
the same way?

==>MT

We do not identify sections that have been contentious.

Appendix C "CDDL Model" and Appendix D "Document Updates" have to be removed, 
as noted in their first line. Before Appendix C can be removed, the actions 
described in the last paragraph of Section 1.2 "Notations" need to be performed.

The following sections intentionally share similarities in structure and style, 
which is good to preserve:

* Sections 5.3.1 and 5.3.2.
* Sections 8.1-8.4 and corresponding subsections.
* Sections 9.1-9.11 and corresponding subsections.
* Sections 12 and 13.
* Sections 14.1-14.3.
* Sections 17.1-17.11.
* Appendices A.1 and A.2.
* Appendices B.1 and B.2.

<==


5) This document uses one or more of the following text styles.
Are these elements used consistently?

* fixed width font (<tt/> or `)
* italics (<em/> or *)
* bold (<strong/> or **)

==>MT

We believe so. That should be limited to <tt/>, when indicating the CBOR simple 
value null, true, or false.

<==


6) This document contains sourcecode:

* Does the sourcecode validate?
* Some sourcecode types (e.g., YANG) require certain references and/or text
in the Security Considerations section. Is this information correct?
* Is the sourcecode type indicated in the XML? (See information about
types: 
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==>MT

The document contains five snippets of sourcecode. In the XML, they are all 
correctly indicated as such, see the "sourcecode" element, with type="cddl". 
This sourcecode has been successfully validated using the online tool at 
https://cddl.anweiss.tech/

To the best of our knowledge, we do not have sourcecode types that require 
certain references and/or text in the "Security Considerations" section.

<==


7) This document contains SVG. What tool did you use to make the svg?

The RPC cannot update SVG diagrams, so please ensure that:

* the SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output as closely as
possible, and
* the figures fit on the pages of the PDF output.

==>MT

We used aasvg, as automatically invoked by the toolchain at 
https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/ that we have regularly used.

The SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output, and they all fit 
into a single page of the PDF output.

<==


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==>MT

It is way more natural that one first reads the other two documents [1][2] in 
the cluster, and then the present document [3]. (Similar considerations about 
[1] and [2] were provided when replying to the corresponding intake questions)

Also, it is way more natural that one reads the further document [4] in the 
cluster after having read the present document [3].

If we define N_x as the RFC number for the document [x] in the cluster, we 
believe that the following is preferable: N_1 < N_2 < N_3 < N_4.

Ideally, the following is additionally preferable:

* N_2 = N_1 + 1
* N_4 = N_3 + 1

We do not think that there is repeated text across the two documents in the 
cluster.


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-groupcomm-bis/

[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-oscore-groupcomm/

[3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-oscore/

[4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ace-oscore-gm-admin/

<==


9) Is there anything else that the RPC should be aware of while editing this
document?

==>MT

Not really. Thanks!

<==


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