On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 05:53:47PM +0200, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 15:33 Frederik Schwan <[1][email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 09:49:59AM +0200, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 9:32 AM Robin Candau <[1][2][email protected]>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     On 7/31/25 9:14 AM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 at 23:37 Frederik Schwan <[2][3]
>     [email protected]
>     >     > <mailto:[3][4][email protected]>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 06:27:04PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini
>     wrote:
>     >     >      > Excerpts from Tomaz Canabrava's message of julho 30, 2025
>     9:09 am:
>     >     >      > >
>     >     >      > > I confirm that I'm sponsoring Martin and that I'll be his
>     >     >     mentor. This
>     >     >      > > message is signed with my gpg key.
>     >     >      > >
>     >     >      >
>     >     >      > Hi All,
>     >     >      >
>     >     >      > Now that Tomaz has sent the signed email, the official
>     discussion
>     >     >     period started. But I'm glad some discussion is already
>     happening
>     >     >     and Martin already accepted some of suggestions.
>     >     >      >
>     >     >      > Regards,
>     >     >      > Giancarlo Razzolini
>     >     >
>     >     >     Hi Giancarlo,
>     >     >     as per our TU bylaws [0] one must find two sponsoring _TUs_:
>     >     >
>     >     >      > In order to become a TU, one must first find two sponsoring
>     TUs
>     >     >     following the guidelines outlined below, and arrange privately
>     with
>     >     >     them to announce their candidacy on the aur-general mailing
>     list.
>     >     >
>     >     >     But as of [1] you resigned as TU. Therefore it appears to me
>     that
>     >     >     you cannot sponsor Martin.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Best regards,
>     >     >     Frederik
>     >     >
>     >     >     [0] [4][5]https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/
>     tu-
>     >     >     bylaws.adoc 
> <[5][6]https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/
>     master/
>     >     tu-
>     >     >     bylaws.adoc>
>     >     >     [1] [6][7]https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur-
>     >     >     [7][8][email protected]/message/
>     >     >     FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/ <[8][9]https://
>     lists.archlinux.org/
>     >     >     archives/list/[9][10][email protected]/message/
>     >     >     FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/>
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > hello,
>     >     >
>     >     > i disagree with the premisses states here, the document says that
>     for
>     >     > addition of a TU one must find two TUs to sponsor,
>     >     >
>     >     > But we are not adding a TU, but a Package Maintainer.
>     >     > Gian is a package maintainer.
>     >     > so am I.
>     >     >
>     >     > best,
>     >     > tomaz
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >
>     >     Hi,
>     >
>     >     The "TU / Trusted User" role is the old name for the current "PM /
>     >     Package Maintainer" one. See the related RFC for the rename of the
>     role
>     >     [1].
>     >     The bylaws has been updated accordingly [2][3].
>     >
>     >     Technically speaking, if Giancarlo resigned as a TU, he is defacto
>     not a
>     >     package maintainer (as TU is simply the previous name of the current
>     PM
>     >     role).
>     >
>     >
>     > I do agree that the rename was a big thing but I feel that this is not
>     correct
>     > - the TU role and the Package Maintainer roles are slightly different.
> 
>     So you say, that if I `mv filea fileb`, the checksum of the file contents
>     differ?
> 
> 
> no mate, i think a cat filea | cut > fileb,
> the checksums of the file contents differ.

There was no `cut`. We just renamed TUs to PMs.

At any rate I don't think this is a problem. Gian can apply for the PM role, 
given he finds two sponsors.
But as a longtime Developer he surely will find PMs to promote him to PM again.

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