On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 5:15 PM Frederik Schwan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 12:36:45PM +0200, Muflone wrote: > > > my name's Martin, you can more often find me under "C0rn3j". > > > Professionally, I work as a DevOps, and in my free time I do things > I've > > > most recently stumbled upon, which usually has to do with FOSS. > > > > > > I've been using Arch for about a decade, I mostly hang out in the > > > unofficial Telegram group*, which I help moderate. > > > > > > I know Martin since a lot of years and I can confirm he's very active on > > Telegram, helping users daily with their questions. Since all the years, > he > > always was a professional, respectful and polite person. > > > > On this side Martin could be a very valid addition to the team. > > Martin, thank you for the application and taking care of the Telegram > users all these years! > I agree that another maintainer with years long relations to Arch would be > a > great addition. > > > > I've been maintaining a random assortment of things in the AUR, a lot > of > > > the times simply because I was using a package that the previous > > > maintainer disowned, and I figured I might pick up the torch. > > > > > > Which brings me to why I want to become a PM - I would like to see some > > > of the things I currently maintain in the official repositories, such > as > > > sc-controller** or Tauon**, and to help out with the maintenance in > > > general. > > > > > > When Martin proposed himself to apply as PM I expressed him my concerns > > about his packages quality and lack of knowledge about the packaging > > guidelines. > > > > He went through his packages and some days later asked me to do further > > checks about his AUR packages. In such occasion I expressed him I was not > > yet convinced about the packaging skill and asked him to posticipate his > > application until he has enhanced his packaging skills and so refused to > > sponsor him during this application. > > It's a shame that your judgement has been ignored in this case ... > > > Therefore, as long the sponsors will take care about this application, > > helping Martin to fix the weak points, he could be a great help on our > team. > > However we first need to make sure the sponsor will take care about this. > > ... and given that the sponsors haven't confirmed their sponsorship yet, 3 > days > after the initial message, I wonder what the motivation was to sponsor > Martin > without any further improvements. Giancarlo, Thomas could you elaborate on > this please? > Hello I was travelling with my wife and without the possibility to take the time and answer this - a matrimonial warning not worth ignoring. The "without any further improvements" is not real as Martin went through the list of issues stated by Muflone and fixed them. I have talked with Muflone to understand his point of view, and I have shared my point of view with him too. But, sincerely I believe that it's more important that someone is willing to do the work for love, even if the work is not 100% yet. The 100% part can be achieved in time, that's why we have the trial period as Junior. When I joined I didn't had a lot of experience with Packaging - I had as a C++ developer and co-maintainer of a few KDE apps such as Konsole, but packaging for a specific distro? no. Now I release KF6 and Plasma (which together are around 160-ish) packages, when Antonio Rojas asks me I also release KDE Gear (which is around 320). Of course I had some issues in the beginning but those were quickly pointed out by Antonio or Gian, and fixed. So all in all I believe that Martin will be a great developer, even if his packages needs a bit of fine tuning. Best, Tomaz > Best regards, > Frederik >
