On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:08:03 +1000 Allan McRae <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 21/12/10 15:53, Xyne wrote: > > On 2010-12-21 12:14 +0800 (51:2) > > Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 13:22 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > >>> My view is that there is no need for informational post_install or > >>> post_update messages (and I find those annoying in general...). > >>> Especially given this obviously a svn snapshot for a branch that > >>> has seen no release yet. I work on the assumption that the users > >>> of Arch are not stupid[*] and know what they are installing on > >>> their systems. They would have gone out of their way not to just > >>> install the ardour package from the repos for a reason. > >>> > >>> [*] well, lets just say I do to make this point... :P > >>> > >>> Allan > >> > >> Well from the POV of ardour's developers, ardour3 isn't even alpha > >> or pre-alpha yet, and this PKGBUILD just encourages those mythical > >> 'stupid users' to try out something which isn't for general users > >> yet. > >> > >> The problem here is that problems will be brought to them (the > >> ardour devs) rather than to this list or the comments on the AUR > >> package. If a post_install message alleviates that problem it's > >> all good, I think. > >> > > > > If a simple message is able to address the concerns expressed by > > the upstream developer and encourage users to contribute to the > > project then we should include it. It shows respect and costs > > nothing. > > How about a comment in the PKGBUILD then? Everybody reads the > PKGBUILD before blindly running makepkg, right... > > Too many people ignore post_install/upgrade messages as it is because > of all the "useless" information in them. I think there usage should > be limited to absolutely critical information. > > Allan many people ignore those messages? that's silly. the solution for preventing users ignoring reading warnings is not removing the warnings. anyway, if you make it a warning - even if they ignore it - they will *also* see it when they read the pkgbuild source. PS: didn't you just say "I work on the assumption that the users of Arch are not stupid" ? Dieter
