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> Send Asterisk-Users mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Asterisk-Users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Re: Most common CODEC (Michael Shuler) > 2. Re: SIP - Receptionist (George Pajari) > 3. Re: windows alternitives to Asterisk? (hank) > 4. RE: windows alternitives to Asterisk? (Michael Devenijn) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Michael Shuler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Most common CODEC > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 02:43:04 -0600 > Organization: BitWise Systems, Inc. > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yes, that's a "feature" of that box. Every other IAD/MG is the other way > around. The 188 has no problems doing all on both ports. > > ---------------------------------------- > > Michael Shuler, C.E.O. > BitWise Systems, Inc. > 1301 W. Pioneer Parkway > Peoria, IL 61615 > Office: (217) 585-0357 > Cell: (309) 657-6365 > Fax: (309) 213-3500 > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Customer Service: (877) 976-0711 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:24 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Most common CODEC > > > > > > Michael Shuler writes: > > > > > G.729 is just about everywhere. A lot of boxes use G.723 > > (and/or G.726) too > > > but G.729 ends up with about the same quality but at a much > > lower bit rate. > > > Most inexpensive "hard" phones don't use G.723 because it > > takes a lot of CPU > > > power. G.729 gets better results in the same or less CPU. > > We always try to > > > use phones supporting G.729, anything else is just gravy. > > If you can use > > > > but cisco ata 186 (2 channels) > > can work with only single channel, when using g729 codec ... > > and can use both channels with g723. > > > > > > > reinvites then you have no need for the G.729 unless you > > use the IVR, MOH, > > > etc. features of * where it is dishing out audio. Even > > then you have to > > > consider if its worth it... After all if you are starting > > hosted VM company > > > using * then the G.729 is a must, but if you are just using > > to route calls > > > between 2 phones that can reinvite then the codec > > capabilities of * don't > > > matter. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > Michael Shuler, C.E.O. > > > BitWise Systems, Inc. > > > 1301 W. Pioneer Parkway > > > Peoria, IL 61615 > > > Office: (217) 585-0357 > > > Cell: (309) 657-6365 > > > Fax: (309) 213-3500 > > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Customer Service: (877) 976-0711 > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >> Carlos Chavez > > >> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:11 PM > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Most common CODEC > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:45:44 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote > > >> > > G.729 is the best codec IMHO. Goto > > >> > > http://www.packetizer.com/iptel/bandcalc.html to get the > > >> real scoop. > > >> > > > >> > IMO ILBC beats G.729 in terms of quality, especially in > > >> environments > > >> > where packet loss can occur. It's about the same > > computationally- > > >> > speaking but it's also royalty-free. > > >> > > > >> > GSM is my second choice but it eats quite a bit more > > bandwidth in > > >> > comparsion. > > >> > > > >> > That packetizer link has no comparisons with any OSS > > codecs, which > > >> > is unfortunate because it seems to pass itself off as an > > >> > authoritative source on bandwidth use in IP telephony. > > >> > > > >> > > >> I am not trying to start a codec war or find out which > > >> is the best > > >> protocol. What I need to know is when I buy a Grandstream > > >> phone, a Cisco > > >> phone, a Sippura adaptor or any other hard phone, what codec > > >> is usually > > >> supported by all of them. All of them obviously support > > >> G.711 but that is not > > >> the best for use when connecting through the Internet. Is it > > >> worthwhile to > > >> buy G.729 licenses for Asterisk, or is there another codec > > >> that is wildly > > >> supported buy most phones? > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Carlos Chavez > > >> Computer Engineer, CCNA > > >> Corporativo Lacer S.A. de C.V. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Asterisk-Users mailing list > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 00:55:08 -0800 > From: George Pajari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: NetVoice Communications > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP - Receptionist > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Willy wrote to the Asterisk users list: > > > I am thinking about fork-lift-upgrading a > > Nortel-Meridian key system... > > The receptionist, however, is currently used seeing a > > backlit display - with buttons - attached to her phone - > > showing all the extensions in the office, and who's has > > a conversation going etc.... > > > Take a look at the new SNOM 220 (http://www.snom.com/snom220_en.php) > with the Key Expansion Module. You can have up 60 extensions represented > on dedicated keys. Unfortunately the phones will not be shipping for at > least another month or two. Which also means we haven't had a chance to > try them out with Aseterisk yet. > > We've got one on order and will let the list know more about how it > works with Asterisk as soon as we can. If you're in Canada we'd be happy > to sell you one. If you're in the US, you can contact SNOM's US > distributor (Kevin Moroz, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for information. > > g. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "hank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:57:16 -0800 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > let me know when it comes out!!!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Devenijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:10 AM > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > > > I'm working on a "abstraction" toolset for asterisk, some screenshots : > > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls1.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls2.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls3.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls4.jpg > > some technical details : > - Fully based on a Postgresql DB (+/- 40 tables) > - Extensive use of macro's in the extensions.conf > - some little patches to the asterisk source (additions) to extend the > manager capability > - a layer between the manager port and the PGSQL written in C (to prevent > that each separate client would connect to the manager interface) > - some AGI scripts (written in C) to fulfill some needs which are not build > in asterisk for example : > redirect through drag&drop. > - A program (written in C) which extracts all the info from de Pgsql and > converts it to the needed * conf files upon request > - goal : >>everything<< works on Win32 clients : configuration, outlook > integration , panel programs, attendant program ... so we could sell a > standard box plug it to the PSTN network and the ethernet, install the > sotware on a W32 client and off they go without the explicit knowledge of > linux. the sound files (will be uploaded on a FTP on the box and copied to > the appropriate destination with the some program as one point above > > I especially developed these toolset "arround" asterisk, so i do not need > the take in account the Asterisk license except for the patches which will > be published. > > development status : > - First tests are positive > - Working on the last "big" point is the extended (graphical call router to > easily design IVR's) > - Working on a .NET SDK which also is a abstraction. > - Timing end of march ... but as everybody knows .... it could take some > more time. > > Some personal statements : > - I know it is not very good to develop for windows but this is the only way > for me and for th major Small businesses outside ... and if there are some > enthousiast to convert it to a linux platform ... go ahead. > - For the moment it is quit oriented on a combination of ISDN hardware > (capi.conf) and cisco phones. once this is working without major bugs i will > extend it to (IAX.conf ... and other things) > - My only goal to develop this is to get asterisk on bigger user basis > - What i regret is the lack of developement of a interface between asterisk > and other software (for windows TAPI for example) i asked many times some > basic questions about the manager interface but nobody seems to be > interested ! i strongly belief this would be a major break through. but i do > not have enough C++ and/or Linux knowledge (and TIME ) to develop these > features. > > > The sourcecode ??? > > - Well lets play it tricky ... i'm going to publish all of the code under > GPL if i see some changes to latest point i mentioned just above. (and don't > try to convince me with "ethical" arguments, i'm now trying for 3 years to > make some "descent" money with integration of open source software and i see > it as a win/win operation) > > > > Just fire me !!! > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Tilghman Lesher > Verzonden: ma 8/03/2004 21:46 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: > Onderwerp: Re: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > > > > On Monday 08 March 2004 13:59, hank smith wrote: > > is there a program that I can install on my linux box so I can > > configure the pbx from the internet from my windows box so I don't > > have to work with config files? > > In a word, no. There are a few GUI applications in the process of > being developed, but most of them are a substitute only for using an > editor on the Linux machine, not a full-fledged abstraction from the > configuration. > > -Tilghman > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > DISCLAIMER: The content of this e-mail message does not constitute a > commitment of DKMA bvba This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain > information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property > rights and are intended for the intended recipient only. Any use of the > information contained herein ( including, but not limited to, total or > partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form ) by persons > other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited.If an addressing or > transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author, > either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 10:09:50 +0100 > From: "Michael Devenijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C405B6.47177D48 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > - The whole toolset running on W32 is already ODBC (in fact it's the = > only way ... ) > - Once i reach stabilty i will try to convert it to fully DB independant = > > - The reloading thing ... i leave it to others ... once it is possible = > i'll make things executable > =20 > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----=20 > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Michael Shuler=20 > Verzonden: di 9/03/2004 9:40=20 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC:=20 > Onderwerp: RE: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > =09 > =09 > Contact me at your earliest convenience, we would be immediately = > interested in the product for our CLEC for provisioning services to our = > customers. > =20 > Couple of issues for us: > =20 > - Would need to support MySQL and Oracle (should be easy to switch to = > ODBC instead of Postgresql specific functions) > - Need a way to change settings on * without "reloading"... I found = > something that is no longer maintained that can do this, see = > http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=3DAsterisk%20cmd%20DynExtenD= > B > We already got the SIP features in = > http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=3D0001086 applied which = > takes care of adding customers > - Would need to support virtual PBX concept for a large carrier = > deployment and thousands of businesses > - Would need to support management of clustered * servers which should = > be taken care of by the above 2 links and a shared file system for VM = > and ACD (which would be cool if it was stored in an SQL DB too) > And much much more but the above a biggies for us. > > ---------------------------------------- > =09 > Michael Shuler, C.E.O. > BitWise Systems, Inc. > 1301 W. Pioneer Parkway > Peoria, IL 61615 > Office: (217) 585-0357 > Cell: (309) 657-6365 > Fax: (309) 213-3500 > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Customer Service: (877) 976-0711=20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Devenijn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = > On Behalf Of Michael Devenijn > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > =09 > =09 > I'm working on a "abstraction" toolset for asterisk, some screenshots = > :=20 > =20 > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls1.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls2.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls3.jpg > http://www.dkma.be/devenijn/data/tls4.jpg > =20 > some technical details :=20 > - Fully based on a Postgresql DB (+/- 40 tables) > - Extensive use of macro's in the extensions.conf > - some little patches to the asterisk source (additions) to extend the = > manager capability > - a layer between the manager port and the PGSQL written in C (to = > prevent that each separate client would connect to the manager = > interface) > - some AGI scripts (written in C) to fulfill some needs which are not = > build in asterisk for example :=20 > redirect through drag&drop. > - A program (written in C) which extracts all the info from de Pgsql = > and converts it to the needed * conf files upon request=20 > - goal : >>everything<< works on Win32 clients : configuration, = > outlook integration , panel programs, attendant program ... so we could = > sell a standard box plug it to the PSTN network and the ethernet, = > install the sotware on a W32 client and off they go without the explicit = > knowledge of linux. the sound files (will be uploaded on a FTP on the = > box and copied to the appropriate destination with the some program as = > one point above > =20 > I especially developed these toolset "arround" asterisk, so i do not = > need the take in account the Asterisk license except for the patches = > which will be published.=20 > =20 > development status :=20 > - First tests are positive > - Working on the last "big" point is the extended (graphical call = > router to easily design IVR's) > - Working on a .NET SDK which also is a abstraction. > - Timing end of march ... but as everybody knows .... it could take = > some more time. > =20 > Some personal statements : > - I know it is not very good to develop for windows but this is the = > only way for me and for th major Small businesses outside ... and if = > there are some enthousiast to convert it to a linux platform ... go = > ahead. > - For the moment it is quit oriented on a combination of ISDN hardware = > (capi.conf) and cisco phones. once this is working without major bugs i = > will extend it to (IAX.conf ... and other things) > - My only goal to develop this is to get asterisk on bigger user basis > - What i regret is the lack of developement of a interface between = > asterisk and other software (for windows TAPI for example) i asked many = > times some basic questions about the manager interface but nobody seems = > to be interested ! i strongly belief this would be a major break = > through. but i do not have enough C++ and/or Linux knowledge (and TIME ) = > to develop these features.=20 > =20 > =20 > The sourcecode ???=20 > =20 > - Well lets play it tricky ... i'm going to publish all of the code = > under GPL if i see some changes to latest point i mentioned just above. = > (and don't try to convince me with "ethical" arguments, i'm now trying = > for 3 years to make some "descent" money with integration of open source = > software and i see it as a win/win operation) > =20 > =20 > =20 > Just fire me !!! > =20 > =20 > =20 > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----=20 > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Tilghman Lesher=20 > Verzonden: ma 8/03/2004 21:46=20 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC:=20 > Onderwerp: Re: [Asterisk-Users] windows alternitives to Asterisk? > =09 > =09 > > On Monday 08 March 2004 13:59, hank smith wrote: > > is there a program that I can install on my linux box so I can > > configure the pbx from the internet from my windows box so I don't > > have to work with config files? > =09 > In a word, no. There are a few GUI applications in the process of > being developed, but most of them are a substitute only for using an > editor on the Linux machine, not a full-fledged abstraction from the > configuration. > =09 > -Tilghman > =09 > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > =09 > > > DISCLAIMER: The content of this e-mail message does not constitute a = > commitment of DKMA bvba This e-mail and any attachments thereto may = > contain information which is confidential and/or protected by = > intellectual property rights and are intended for the intended recipient = > only. 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