Try "pedantic=no" in sip.conf.
      Also, enable a SIP debug on the peers, check if anything out of the
ordinary appears.

seems as though pedantic=no was the issue. they are staying online.

further looking (which I seemed to miss) was in 1.4 pedantic as default no,
in 11 default is yes. my sip.conf had no setting.

Thanks,

Jerry
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