One word: Rubbish

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Joel Maslak <[email protected]> wrote:
> No.  It seems that opening up some sort of automatic blocking could cause an 
> attacker forging packets to block legitimate endpoints. It also seems like 
> they won't get in with good passwords, so it isn't actually accomplishing 
> something to worry about the script kiddies if you have good passwords.  And 
> this blocking won't actually stop someone with a zero day attack or who is 
> sophisticated and can attack from many IP addresses - these are the real 
> threats for people with good passwords.
>
> The CPU usage is trivial to deny them.  As is the bandwidth usage, if you are 
> not sitting on a slowish broadband connection.
>
> Sure blocking doesn't hurt, but does the help it provides exceed the 
> downsides (effort and risk of blocking legitimate users)?  I suspect it 
> doesn't...if you have strong passwords.  If you have weak passwords, you 
> should fix that.
>
> It also seems that the only way to make blocking effective is to block 
> everything by default except known endpoints.  Blocking the door knickers 
> doesn't protect against a bad guy finding (not through brute force) valid 
> credentials.
>
> For me, monitoring outbound call volume makes a lot more sense.  I would love 
> to see an easy to use, out of the box method to alert me if more than "x" 
> number of erlangs* are exceeded within a five minute, sixty minute, and one 
> day time period. For me, I would want alerting on more than 10 erlangs over 
> five minutes, 8 over an hour, and 2 over a day. Exceeding these would likely 
> indicate fraud for my installation.  Smaller sites would use smaller numbers, 
> larger ones would use bigger ones.
>
> *erlang: one erlang represents full utilization of a single call path over 
> the monitoring period.  The monitoring period is usually one hour, but can be 
> anything (5, 60, or 1440 minutes in this case).
>
> On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:53 PM, C F <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You kidding?
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Joel Maslak <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Is there really any benefit to blocking these, if you use good passwords?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Warren Selby <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm experiencing this on one of my clients servers. The attack is
>>>> ongoing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --Warren Selby
>>>> On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban
>>>> has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it
>>>> is blocking about 1 IP address every few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering if anybody else is also experiencing unusually increased
>>>> hack attempts today?
>>>>
>>>> Zeeshan A Zakaria
>>>>
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