Gordon, Thank you very much for the detailed insights! I really appreciate it. I'm gonna test drive a server in Germany today. The main reason for choosing a server in Germany is COST ($65 vs $200).
Thanks! - Juan C. Villa Computer Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology [email protected] (404)441-9653 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Henderson [mailto:[email protected]] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:52:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Server response time > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Juan C. Villa wrote: > > > On 2/28/2010 10:21 AM, Gordon Henderson wrote: > >> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Juan C. Villa wrote: > >> > >>> Hey Guys, > >>> > >>> I am considering leasing a new server in Germany to run my Asterisk > >>> infrastructure and I was wondering how response time would affect the > >>> performance of the system. Right now I have a response time of around > >>> 60-70ms with my server in California. The server in Germany would have a > >>> response time of around 140ms (both ways). My DID/Termination providers > >>> are in Canada and the USA, and all my voip boxes are also in the USA. > >>> Any suggestions or recommendations? > >>> > >> Being based in the UK, I'd say why not the UK rather then Germany - we're > >> closer to the US after-all :) > >> > >> However, one thing we don't know: Where are you and your customers based? > >> > >> I also find it odd that a lot of people UK based still think they can get > >> better deals (cheaper& more b/w) by hosting in the US rather than in the > >> UK - so I'm curious as to why you'd want to host outside the US... > >> > >> But as long as you're not passing media then anywhere you have good > >> connectivity ought to work - however if you are passing media, then I'd > be > >> concerned that someone in California is calling their neighbour and the > >> data is going all the way to Germany and back again... That really will > be > >> noticeable... > >> > > > > In response to Gordon: Hetzner offers the best dedicated server deal I > > have every seen. I have been a Cari.net client for over a year now, but > > I am needing a more powerful server and I don't want to pay $200+ a > > month for it. Hetzner has a connection to the Level 3 network that > > recently installed a transoceanic fiber optic link with a lag of less > > than 40 ms. > > You're not going to get much better than 40ms each way from NY to Europe > because as Scotty would say: Ye canny break the laws o' physics! (Actually > light in fibre takes 26.1ms according to Wolfram alpha but London to NY > has been ~40ms each way since as long as I've been involved with that > stuff (mid 90's) > > And most big ISPs in europe now connect to Level3 - e.g. the co-lo I use > in deepest darkest england (nowhere near London, although we do have Gb to > London) has a ping time like: > > gordon @ unicorn: ping -q -c10 www.nyiix.net > PING ns3.nyiix.net (209.137.140.21) 56(84) bytes of data. > > --- ns3.nyiix.net ping statistics --- > 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9009ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 78.865/79.947/86.082/2.079 ms > > It goes via L3 and that's probably not the best end-point, but it's close > enough, and ~40ms each way. > > > The total lag from Germany to USA (2 way) is around ~110ms (Just tested > > it today). Who this cause any issues with my VoIP applications? Right > > now I have two VoIP boxes installed in Switzerland which are connected > > to my server in California (avg response time = 190ms) and I have no > > problems at all. What would you guys advice? > > So are you passing data, or just signalling? If data, then why? (Although > I guess you're actually terminating to the PSTN in those countries?) But > as you already have servers in Switzerland, why can't you use those to run > some extended tests, and work it out for yourself? > > Personally, I'd not even think about servers in another country unless I > had good reason to - and good "remote hands"/support, etc. and a > requirement to plumb in to the local PSTN - either directly or via a local > VoIP carrier - and even then, if it's via a local VoIP carrier - why not > just connect directly to them from 'home' rather than put a box over > there. > > But I if you already have servers in .ch which you indicate you're happy > with, then I guess you do have good reason to have them there, so since > .de is just up the road from .ch, then if you're happy with the ISP/co-lo > then go for it... > > Do make sure the facility has multiple carrier ISPs though - if L3 does go > down (and no-ones perfect), you still need a way to get to it - L3 isn't > the only backhaul ISP with trans-atlantic links - get the co-lo's AS > number and see who they're peering with using the various 'whois' tools, > etc. > > Good luck! > > Gordon > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? 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