On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jon Pounder <[email protected]> wrote: > Cary Fitch wrote: > > two weeks ago when I said don't ever permit them to have phone service > again I was labeled a radical. > > at&t and the other telcos are just dropping the ball here as I said > before - with ip address spoofing we all have rules to prevent packets > from entering our network which should have originated within it. if the > telcos just did the same we would all be happier - and screw the > "legitimate" use of faking ani, caller id or whatever level its > happening at. Personally I would prefer to ignore the calls from my bank > that are originating in asia since they are just trying to sell me > something I don't want anyway.
C'Mon, recip comps are peanuts? Why would they? They make money off it and yes BECAUSE it's from another carrier. > > > Rogers in Canada just lost a class action suit for failing to provide > the internet service they said they would in their terms of service, > (poor bandwidth, poor uptime etc), and this set a good precedent. I > think everyone who pays to have caller id on a line should get together > and file a class action suit - if the telcos can not guarantee its > accurate, they are not providing the service contracted for, so either I don't see where this is the same. If Rogers would have lost for allowing spoofed IP address to arrive at a customers computer then you are comparing apples to apples. But if one pays for a feature that is meant to just be what is provided, how exactly you going to sue them? > it should be free since its of no value, or they should fix it by > whatever means necessary to guarantee accuracy. That is a gravy train > service and if they were no longer permitted to charge for it, it would > soon get the attention to a fix it deserves. > > Around here we get the calls from exchange 000 - tell me that takes more > than a second of thought to be able to filter out.... > > > > > > > >> Three or four area codes, all spoofed ANI. >> We absorb their war dialing for about 2,000,000 unassigned cell numbers with >> two Asterisk server which do nothing else. >> >> Since they are war dialing cell phone numbers, they obviously don't care >> about any rules. Trying to get any info from the people who respond to "1 >> for more information" is fruitless. They will give no information about the >> company and they or the person at the next desk claims to be a "supervisor" >> who will relay our "concerns" to the management. >> >> We eliminated the Special Information Tones, as time wasters. We get 10 >> calls or so per second. Hard to say... console is a blur on verbose 7. We >> do put them in a black list when we get a call, but that is manual process >> and unless we get several calls on our own numbers... that slides. They >> change ANI often anyway. (Another reason we know they are pirates) >> >> Our attorney says there is a law pending to make it illegal to "spoof an ANI >> to defraud". It wouldn't affect "legitimate ANI manipulations" such as >> making all calls appear to come from a main corp. number, etc. It would make >> illegal setting an ANI to some attorney's office or some insurance company >> to defraud the callee. I don't know if it would make use of bogus numbers >> to hide identity illegal. >> >> We had a long chat with an AT&T traffic admin, this week, about our short >> hold times, which turned into a discussion of warranty calls. They are >> aware of the problem, but say they can't do anything, because the calls come >> from other carriers. >> >> We don't do CDR in asterisk. We do in a Lucent switch ahead of Asterisk. >> The Lucent switch produced 540 megs of "warranty" CDR files in February. >> >> In short, someone needs to find those people and explain things to them >> clearly and with extreme prejudice. >> >> /rant off >> YMMV >> Cary >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:11 PM >> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion >> Subject: [asterisk-users] Area code 757 "Car warranty" calls >> >> >> 757 area code right? They have been hitting my cell twice a day. I >> always press one and go through the process telling them I have a 1959 >> Edsel dump truck that needs alot of work and how perfect this is going >> to work for me... Either that or something else to waste their time. >> >> Their ANI info is spoofed too. >> >> Cary Fitch wrote: >> >>> I don't think the telemarketers care about them. Right now we get >>> >> thousands >> >>> of "Car warranty" phone calls everyday, now for months, and given that >>> >> they >> >>> are illegally war dialing cell phone numbers, I don't think they listen >>> >> for >> >>> the Special Information Tones. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
