Good point, really good point, about it not mattering if our internal
machines are in HMM/Bayes, as ASSP will never encounter that in an inbound
message (short of some sort of crazy forward mailbox out of the org that
then forwards back in).
I'm not sure what you were answering with the "NO" - but I wasn't asking if
ASSP looked at headers of the report itself when a report is forwarded
correctly.
I still say there is something working incorrectly with the email that gets
sent to alert an admin when spam is reported, but if you're not seeing
that, it must be something on my end, I jsut can't imagine what.
Thanks as always.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[email protected]
> wrote:
> This is not important for incoming mails - these word combinations never
> happen there.
> It hurts only if Bayes and/or HMM are enabled for outgoing mail.
> That the analyzer shows these results is not nice, but can't be changed.
>
> And NO, if the mail is forwarded as attachment, assp ignores the real mail
> header, it uses only the mail header from the attachment (if there is
> one!).
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: K Post <[email protected]>
> An: For Users of ASSP <[email protected]>
> Datum: 12.04.2016 15:37
> Betreff: Re: [Assp-user] Additional My-Name-Definitions
> (myNameAlso)
>
>
>
> No question, staff MUST forward as attachment from Outlook. You haven't
> met the people I'm working with.... passionate about the charity,
> compassionate, and really good people at heart, but can't seem to apply
> that passion to following tech guidelines / rules. I'm seeking approval
> to
> prohibit reporting from those who can't follow the rules.
>
> Our setup goes: ASSP->SMTP server with pop/imap which forwards (for
> most)
> to an exchange array. Even when they forward as attachment, the mail has
> the smtp server's and exchange server's received headers, as expected.
>
> HMM and Bayes are showing them in the analyze, as bad. So if putting them
> in My-Name-Definitions is a bad idea, is there some sort of "don't
> consider
> these words or phrases" setting. How about a bombre with a zero score?
> Would that work? Is something like that necessary?? I feel like we need
> to tell ASSP "hey, the following hostnames, while not ASSP, are still our
> servers - don't pay attention to those lines - they'll be in every report,
> good or bad."
>
>
> As for the block email report, copying the file from the errors folder
> into
> the mail analyzer gives correct results, it's just the email report that
> is
> mostly empty. This is just a minor annoyance and not worth your time if
> I'm the only one (or am I one of the few who looks at / gets these
> reports?). ASSP is working, it's just the report itself that's wonky.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Thomas Eckardt
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > >Should we list other non-ASSP servers in Additional My-Name-Definitions
> > >(myNameAlso)
> >
> > No - the GUI description of 'myNameAlso' is correct. it is only used
> for
> > the 'Received:' line parsing.
> >
> > >I know that users sometimes just forward instead of forwarding as an
> > >attachment from Outlook. Working on correcting that with training.
> >
> > There is nothing more to say. Simply forwarding an email to a report
> > address, will destroy the required original MIME header lines.
> >
> > >The files in the errors folders are fine,
> > >but the analyze emailed report doesn't have the correct info.
> >
> > Any of both statements must be wrong, because the reported (stored
> > .rpt.eml) content is analyzed!
> > Compare the .rpt.eml file to the .eml of the original mail stored by
> assp
> > and to the MIME source shown in the client (outlook).
> >
> > I can't reproduce this. All possible cases are working for me:
> >
> > - attached .eml (not recommended if the attachment is not base64
> encoded)
> > - attached compressed .eml
> > - attached .msg (outlook message file - requires
> Email::Outlook::Message)
> > - attached compressed .msg (outlook message file - requires
> > Email::Outlook::Message)
> >
> > This may possibly help - http://www.assptoolbar.com/
> > To spend some money, you may write your own small VB or powershell
> script
> > for outlook.
> >
> > Because Lotus-Notes has the same "problem" (IMHO like every other mail
> > client) with the simple forwarding to the report addresses, I've written
> > an agent that converts the reported mail to a comressed attachment and
> > sends it to assp.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: K Post <[email protected]>
> > An: For Users of ASSP <[email protected]>
> > Datum: 12.04.2016 00:16
> > Betreff: [Assp-user] Additional My-Name-Definitions (myNameAlso)
> >
> >
> >
> > Should we list other non-ASSP servers in Additional My-Name-Definitions
> > (myNameAlso)
> >
> > For example: exchange server names. smarthosts, the real SMTP server,
> etc
> >
> > My question is prompted by seeing spam report analyze reports showing
> > things like the below under bad prob.
> >
> > ourcharity org 0.991 (ourcharity.org is our domain)
> > apr receiv 0.991 (don't know exactly what that means)
> > helo receiv exch ourcharity 1.000 (our exchange server)
> >
> > I know that users sometimes just forward instead of forwarding as an
> > attachment from Outlook. Working on correcting that with training.
> >
> >
> > And related, the analyze reports still are missing all sorts of
> > information
> > when sent as an attachment from Outlook. The files in the errors
> folders
> > are fine, but the analyze emailed report doesn't have the correct info.
> I
> > started a thread on this before which I'm hoping can be revisited.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
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