I'm not cut out to be a manager, because I would view the black team as welcome friends, not adversaries. If I have a bug in my code, I'd prefer that it be caught pre-deployment.
However, better than just the black team would be a pool of untrained users knowing nothing about the product and relying solely on the documentation. I guaranty that they will do things I never anticipated. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 1:00 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Question about HLASM complex relocatable expressions External Message: Use Caution On 9/3/25 10:34, John Ganci wrote: > Why would anyone use the definition of ADDR2 shown below? > ... I code tests to exercise edge conditions. I have a Black Team mindset: <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1xXHtyS0e1LqV6HZVVArTIuoCmtE5QZDhBcm9QsmQDRANh-UELUt8IG6Le1o93mgRwU48JvBbYlDkT4PYl4qNwgb-gcSP5YR9Xi4NnQv9cIeytUTnA2TiRkVGUdBrtBvVj0QifidO7bdLIJcwpD9YhP9XXM8hCwLvxWxjc7sm_YR-4sxHFyaB-rxDjATmIvdwzW6yBX7rA8WP7tOoO_e41XcVWtnWzfnL2eC1zi4voeBn1lNNsnOJPSRO1pu44ex3CVycKiUGIAh29nY0tmE4i6B5EunPvFTpR0oTU9r7ldn-5gCm3Ky69IqTN_oKeV3hpsPoCyNpk3k2nu9fkyEo0OgX2A3C60_jID_Rbcl0XbYnn0qzaFWzkCYywdwkl0LzdzRCmOy4PErWXdavGjeNqxsW58-EVMVROLhckZzyewU/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.penzba.co.uk%2FGreybeardStories%2FTheBlackTeam.html> I once wrote such a test which detected no error on MVS but detected an error on VM/CMS. -- gil
