I worked as a contractor for a few busy years, and based on my (admittedly
limited) experience (including banks and insurance) it was almost 50:50
mixed case:all upper case.

I can quite happily type mixed case assembly, but one thing I learned
during those contracts was respect. Respect for the team, respect for local
standards. And I'd never upper case someone else's work without asking
first.

But this all looks like a moot point when code and comments are all upper
case, apart from a
MSG      DC    C'This text is for the User'.

Yes, I used ISPF edit "nulls on", "caps off", "profile lock" and from
memory "tabs on \" for assembly just for speed, with soft tabs at 10, 16
and 41.

Roops
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"Mundus sine Caesaribus"

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025, 13:37 Seymour J Metz, <[email protected]> wrote:

> You are the one that is wasting time, by making things up about what
> others like or do not like. Claiming that someone is the only one to be
> comfortable with lower case  brands you as either a liar or a fool.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <[email protected]> on
> behalf of Jon Perryman <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2025 3:38 AM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Is HLASM efficient WAS: Telum and SpyreWAS: Vector
> instruction performance
>
>
> External Message: Use Caution
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 01:44:32 +0000, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >There you go again, making things up. You don't have a clue as to what is
> or is not painful to whom.
>
> Once again, I'm begging Metz to stop wasting my time with his ignorance.
>
> Some have mentioned using separate datasets to isolate lowercase. The only
> solution is to lock edit profiles because lowercase will find its way into
> most datasets. Look no farther than PARMLIB(BPXPRM) where mount points are
> lowercase. I suspect most parmlib members can't tolerate lowercase.
>
> Peter Relson's advocating for lowercase surprised me. Working on existing
> products, we have standards that must be followed. You're not allowed to
> lowercase all comments because that introduces unacceptable risk and you
> lose the line change identifier (PTF) by ptf identifier. I've never seen
> lowercase comments because of most people don't want to see a hodgepodge of
> uppercase / lowercase comments.
>
> I would also remind people that WTO does not change the message text in
> any way. Automation will not be happy with lowercase when your uppercase is
> expected. As a useful FYI, WTO happily writes x'00' - x'ff' to the syslog.
> Turn hex on while viewing ulog or syslog to see hex dump of a small part of
> storage without using snap, trace, logging to a dataset or ???.
>
> How many failed attempts does this make by Metz demanding that I'm wrong.
> Please Metz, stop wasting my time!
>
>
>

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